Living in the Present: Gratitude and Mental Well-Being
Welcome to the last boy scouts podcast.
Tyler:We are back with another episode.
Danny:Yeah. Just very tired.
Tyler:Oh, yeah. We just finished up on monster training.
Danny:Yeah. That, that session was as as tough as there's a couple of people missing, but for the most part, it was really hot. It was really hot and really sweaty and lots of, good training, lots of good, rounds, 20 rounds, which is usually the goal. Right? Like, man, sometimes I don't do 20 rounds.
Danny:I was talking to a couple people, and they were like, you know, it's pretty rare for academies to do 20 rounds. I don't know if that's true, but probably, like, hobbyists or, like, we know where you don't have a really big competition team. It's probably, you know, a lot of, like, sitting around bullshit and and every once in a while train. I know, Kyle was telling me that, that was the gym that he was at before. It was most of the time just him and the professor that would stick around
Tyler:That's crazy.
Danny:And train. And, yeah, it's kind of like he's I mean, we have a gift. I mean, we train. Yeah. And most every, class has then an open mat associated with it.
Danny:And, for the most part, you know, a lot of times, I I don't remember a time when we don't do 20 rounds.
Tyler:I that's all I've known.
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:Right? To be honest, that's all I've known in jiu jitsu is 20 rounds. And I and and and to be quite frank, I like I I appreciate being pushed. Like, I appreciate when the black belts step up and says train the whole time. Train the whole time.
Tyler:Dude, my body has transformed
Danny:For sure.
Tyler:Incredibly in the last 3 years. Yeah. Two and a half years that I've been training. Right? I was telling Anthony I started at about 2:40.
Danny:Oh. Oh, yeah. You talked about that a little
Tyler:bit, didn't we? I started about 2:40 when I was there, and I was about 190 now. I was called out on it, so I'm gonna have to prove prove it. But before the last competition, I had I wanted to hit I wanted to wrestle in that or I wanted to fight in that one ninety.
Danny:Yeah. And he said that you hadn't hit 190 since high school. Since high school. Yeah. You have a big frame.
Danny:I I mean, yeah, you can see people transform, but Yeah. Anthony is one of those guys that transforms, man. Yeah. When he's training a lot, that you're like, god damn, that dude is. Yeah.
Danny:He is he's a monster. I know I can see on my body, it's you know, like, my wrist. There was a time when I could, you know, reach around and touch my fingers on my wrist, and we were talking about that with professor. But it's because you start to develop these bones and these muscles that you use with grips. And he he was saying, you know, that's kinda one of those things where, like, not to take away from no gi, but gi, it's one of the things that you that you get you you have you know, all day long, you're just, like, grabbing and grinding and pulling on these ropes, making it tight, not letting it go, squeezing that muscle, And, it it it does.
Danny:It causes a transformation. And and, when you see guys start to come in and you see the transformation, you're like, dang, man. Your body looks different. Right? Yeah.
Danny:And it's really cool because, you know, paying a compliment to a guy like that, that that might be the only time they hear it because it's not like a lot of people are telling you, hey. You look good. Or, you know, like, hey. I I really like your body type. You know what I mean?
Danny:Like, it's not like you hear that all the time.
Tyler:Believe it or not, that stuff feels good. Right? Like, there's a lot of men do. There's a lot of dad bod body shaming. Like, we don't mean to be like this.
Tyler:I've actually and and this is, I think this is a great topic. Like, we are in pride month, but it's it is men's mental Men's
Danny:mental
Tyler:Mental health awareness. So this will be the last episode for this month. I know we covered the topic about about this time last year, and I'm I'm sure we'll we'll touch on it.
Danny:But, like, just
Tyler:to what an important way to, like, your a reminder to, like, just, like, be kind to yourself. Right? Like, I've just really I've been working the 10 step program again just because I've I've really been struggling the last few weeks as I've been writing the eulogy for my brother, as I've as I've just been a bit stuck in my past trying to try trying to get out of this pattern of thinking. Yeah. I'm working the 10 steps because I see the pattern as an addiction.
Tyler:Yeah. And and I've it's really like I've started creating a list, curating a list of, like, I use food to change my mental and emotional state. Oh. I did not realize that until probably COVID, and I started working from home where I'm like, I'm bored or I'm feeling lethargic. And I'm like, well, maybe this food will will will change my state.
Tyler:And so we we we do that. We we eat junk food. And I would say that a majority I'm willing to bet, and I've got no science to back it up, but I'm willing to bet a more majority of obesity in in just about everybody is just this need to change their their mental or emotional state.
Danny:And then, yeah, and you get, like, where the food makes you in your mind feel better.
Tyler:You get that that dopamine. Dopamine. Yeah. You get that sugar that sugar high, that dopamine, the sweet, you know. And and it's a relatively cheap thrill.
Tyler:And it's not, it's not seen the same as, you know, a heroin addiction or a meth addiction or alcohol addiction. Right? Some sometimes these these things, they just come off so, flip it. Yeah. Yeah.
Tyler:And then they're very sinister.
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:Like, they're very sinister. Right? Like, that McDonald's will give you, you know, 4 cheeseburgers for for, you know, $5 or whatever like that.
Danny:And the
Tyler:next thing you know, you're craving that greasy Yeah. That greasy stuff.
Danny:It's true. And and I personally don't have a bad relationship with food, you know. Like, I don't eat a lot. I mean, I cook my food at work. Today, I had a really bad experience with food.
Danny:It bummed me out so bad. Mhmm. I had didn't get up in time to make my, lunch. Mhmm. Usually, like, I'd I'll make my lunch before I go to bed.
Danny:But I got home late, and I was like, you know what? I'll get up early, and I'll do it. And I Mhmm. Just was like, screw it. I'll just I'll go get something today.
Danny:I'll just go to the, there's an Apollo burger. Have you ever had a Yeah. Yeah. I really like their burgers, and I really like their bacon cheeseburger. So go there and, dude, it was hot.
Danny:The it's downtown Salt Lake. Mhmm. And so there were so many homeless people coming to my window, walking around, like, it's such a bummer because you're like, I you know, you do you roll down the window and say no? Mhmm. Or do you just pretend like they're not there?
Danny:I was bummed. I was like, this is such a bummer, man. Like, here I am gonna go buy my food while these people are suffering. Right? And I just kinda had a bad feeling.
Danny:Order my food, go back to work, go to eat it, and I look in the bag, and I'm like, this is nowhere near what I ordered.
Tyler:That's the worst.
Danny:It was. And and and you know me, I'm not a spicy type. I like chips and salsa. I like you know, I can handle a little bit of spice, but not much. I don't have a spicy palate.
Danny:It was this cheeseburger that had spicy sauce and jalapenos with green chilies on it. I had to down there scrape everything off of the burger, and I was so bummed. And I was like, why did I do that? Why did I why did I even waste Yeah. The time with that?
Danny:And and it it bummed me out so bad that I was and and then I thought to myself, man, what a first world problem. Right? Found out about. Like, you're you're talking about this, you know, people that like, we're talking about, like, people that suffer, and here I am. I'm upset that my cheeseburger was not the way that I wanted it.
Danny:You know? And I was like, gosh, man. Come on. Be a be a better person, and it boned me out.
Tyler:It is worse. It is the worst when you get the wrong order and you spend your hard earned money. Like, I mean, there's a lot of reasons to be bummed out.
Danny:Yeah. And I knew that I wasn't gonna feel like, I was like, okay. Well, it's 11 o'clock. So I got 6 hours, 7 hours before jiu jitsu. So I was like, okay.
Danny:I'll be fine. Because then I was like, man, I'm gonna feel like crap. Yeah. You know, like, kinda acid reflux y.
Tyler:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you get God putting pressure on you.
Danny:Yeah. We Yeah. We, but as far as, like, the men's mental health awareness, like, yeah, like, I think even, like, guys, you know, being around each other, paying each other compliments, you know, instead of being the we we've talked about it a 100 times, this alpha this character this character of alpha males that are like, you know, I'm this tough guy, and I'm going to pretend to be tough. I'm going to put on this facade, and I'm gonna carry myself, as a tough guy. I listened to, Tank Abbott's podcast with Joe Rogan, and Tank Abbott was one of my favorite fighters back in the day for UFC.
Danny:He was, like, he was the epitome of, like knew how to sell the fights, knew how to be, like, the tough guy. And he was talking about how back in the day, he would fight 2 or 3 times a week bare knuckles at a bar, on the road, had that attitude of, like, I am down to fight whenever. He said he was an angry person. He would get kinda narcissistic. Like, he would say things he knew you were going to make a statement about or try to correct him about just so he could pick a fight with you.
Danny:And later on in life, he's like, man, I look back, and I'm like, why? What was it about? Like, yes. I'm a tough guy. Yes.
Danny:I'm, yes, I'm a tough guy. Yes. I had a good life. I lived I lived a good life. He goes, but I'm not proud of any of those things.
Danny:I never looked back and go, man, that was awesome. I really made that person feel like shit. You know, you don't have those feelings. And that's a lot of like how I think also is like when you're playing this facade of like alpha male or what they expect you to be, like, this tough guy, like, all these guys that you see on social media that I get so bummed out about, so turned off. Like, then I turned my social media off because I'm like, man, I don't wanna see you.
Danny:I don't wanna know what you're doing. I don't care what you're doing. Yeah. They had that, Wes Weston guy. Wes Weston, I think his name.
Tyler:The guy that was in
Danny:prison, the gym. Yeah. Like, he jumped all over some guy about how he looked just because the guy disagreed with what he said, and it was, like, so ugly. Like, it was so I was so bummed out about what he said.
Tyler:Well, it's so interesting when somebody does something like that. Right? They when they switch the topic because they can't defend their position Yeah. And they switch the topic to somebody's appearance, somebody's bank account. Yeah.
Tyler:Like, you you are, like, you are you're acting really from a place of insecurity.
Danny:Sure.
Tyler:Right? Like, that is that is childish behavior.
Danny:And he ended up telling him I'd punch him he was gonna punch him in the face or something like that. And the guy was like, what is
Tyler:Because I disagree with you?
Danny:How do we get to that point? And I think to myself, like, yeah, man. There's times when Yeah. When I've been, like, a jerk, and I've, like, picked on a person, you know, and I never I I don't like that about myself. But now I really get bummed when all of a sudden some dude is just, like, making fun of another guy.
Danny:Yeah. And you can tell that the guy is, like, probably already insecure about what he's saying anyways, and that guy is just, like, picking on him. And I wanna be like, why are you treating that person like that? Part of part of the thing that I struggle with is, like, both those guys know me as somebody that used to pick on people. You know?
Danny:And I think, am I being holier than now at that moment? Should I say something? And then I then that person goes, hey. You do the exact same thing. How come it's okay for you to to pick on people and to to, you know, nitpick and to, like, goad and to tease?
Danny:And Right. When is when is teasing not teasing? When is it just being a jerk? You know, when is it bullying? Yeah.
Danny:I I struggle with that because I don't say anything, and I should, man. I feel like I should. Well, I mean,
Tyler:I think we all struggle with that. Right? Like, through teasing. Right? Like, teasing sometimes can go too far.
Tyler:Right? Like, we're all guilty of it. Yeah. We say something. We're not we don't take into account, like, somebody other somebody else's mental or emotional state.
Tyler:Right? Like, we can knock that shit off. Like, we really should be more focused on building each other up rather than cutting each other down. Now it's not that's not to say it's not fun to, like, throw jabs at people, but you gotta you gotta know that person and know your limits, man. Like, don't be so ashamed to apologize when you've done wrong.
Tyler:Yeah. Yeah.
Danny:It's I mean, then and that
Tyler:is that's humbling. That takes some humility to actually to say, hey. I screwed up. I think we don't give ourselves the opportunity to change as much as we need to, the grace to change. Yeah.
Tyler:Men should always I will always be a work in progress. I will never if I remain stagnant, like that is that to me is the scariest. Yeah. And part of my problem is, is that I, I, I put myself in a, okay, I want this. Now I've gotta push myself to that, and I start getting sad and depressed when shit's not going as fast or as as needy as I as I need.
Danny:Yeah. Yeah. And you're like or you're not, seeing the gains Yeah. That you think you should be seeing. Right.
Danny:Or that you're putting in all this effort and all of a sudden you're I'm not seeing the gains. It's almost like jujitsu where you cannot see your own progress. Right. You're not you're not capable of seeing how you're progressing and what you're doing. But but everybody around you, if they were to, like, nitpick at what you are you were already, bummed out about, you would feel worse.
Danny:Right?
Tyler:Yeah.
Danny:And or if they were to, like, pick you up and be like, Tyler, don't you see this part of your success? Yeah. Then you would, like, change the narrative in in your head. And
Tyler:You should be able to. Right? There's a lot of people that struggle. And I'm I definitely tend to be on that spectrum that have this kind of learned pattern of helplessness, which is which is clinically depression. Right?
Tyler:Like, depression. We have when when our brain has has when we've programmed our reticular activation system, the part of our brain that picks up patterns, quite often, those of us who are are maladaptive will pick up patterns where they only see
Danny:the the dish negative.
Tyler:And that sucks. It's the hard that's one of the hardest battles I've I've been fighting in my life. Yeah. Is to reframe the perspective that things are good for me. Things are great for me.
Tyler:I have, I've had an amazing opportunities.
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:And and I do. I I more often than not, I'm definitely one of those people, I'm more often than not, will see that at the the crap that I've had to to live through.
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:And and and I I almost wear it like a badge of honor.
Danny:Yeah. Like, as if you should be proud about that part of
Tyler:my life. Right? And that has that is the that is the that is the base of my my depression, the depression that I struggle with.
Danny:Yeah. I I definitely understand, where you're coming from. I I too my personal sometimes, what I get struck is, like, we're stuck around, like, I see some of the things that I've done negatively to people still in my life. You know? And I've talked about that a couple times where, you know, I say something or I do something, and that triggers them.
Danny:And it's because of something that I've done prior. Right? And they've now, associated this Danny with that Danny who was being, you know, and and hurtful and and said mean things and did mean things, because I did not I was I I was like, I have this I have this thing where I did not have a dad. Mhmm. I grew up rough.
Danny:I mean, you know, we did not have a lot of money. We did not have a lot of things. And so I was, that's the that's why I am the way that I am.
Tyler:Yeah. You
Danny:know? And I'm and I would put that push. That's why I am the way that I am. Yep. You know?
Danny:And then as you get older, you're like, wait. Okay. I'm gonna stay in that position. I'm gonna stay Yeah. Yeah.
Danny:Yeah. Stay there. I'm gonna be mean just to be mean, and now I'm going to, like, continue to push people away from me, and people are gonna get turned off by who I am. Yeah. And then in put some alcohol in me, and, man, it's, like, a 100 times.
Danny:And then I'm like, no filter. Yeah. No no settle down. No backing down. Yeah.
Danny:And one thing that, like, I really, really try to do is really try to be, like, interested in what you're interested in and be like, hey, man. You are doing such a good job. Like, hey. You are no, man. You are kicking ass at your at right now.
Danny:You are doing it may not be, you know, the top level tier that you wanna you that you think that you should be at, but you're middle tier right now, and and your you your trajectory is up. Mhmm. Right? Even if you're struggling mentally, you know, it's like, hey, man. You look nice today.
Danny:Yeah. You know? Like, hey, dude. You you man, you you look good today. Yeah.
Danny:Yeah. You know, it catches people off guard when you tell somebody, you look nice today. The and and all of a sudden, they're like, well, I I I didn't do my hair, and I Yeah. You know, my No. Just get You know, they
Tyler:supplement. Oh, yeah.
Danny:You're like All of a sudden, you're like, woah. Woah.
Tyler:Woah, man. You need to slow down.
Danny:Just say thank you.
Tyler:Stay present.
Danny:But but guys guys in particular, you're not used to getting compliments. No. And it's such a weird thing, but but but if I said you were a piece of shit. Oh, you'd own that. You'd be like, you'd be like, you'd be like,
Tyler:oh, yeah? Yeah. Well, you're a piece of shit too. Yeah. It goes 1 or 2 ways.
Tyler:Right? Yeah. I think it's interesting because as I work these these steps, right, the first this you know, if anybody who's gone through Alcoholics Anonymous, my particular, flavor is Al Anon. It's it's for, family members of alcoholics and or Narcis Anonymous. So not necessarily people that have had active addictions, but I think I think our I think our our definition of addictions is is very narrow.
Tyler:Right? We see these we we we have to see addictions as destructive patterns in our life.
Danny:Oh, okay.
Tyler:And for me, it's this destructive pattern of thinking. And and and like I said, that that learned pattern of helplessness with the the, you know, saying, oh, my my parents were divorced. And one of the things that has you do one of the things that that AA will have you do is write down an inventory of all of the, places where you've hurt people. And and for me, it was like, where have I held resentment?
Danny:Sure.
Tyler:Where have I hurt people with resentment? And how do I start inventorying that? And it it really is kinda to
Danny:me, like, it it reminds me of one of
Tyler:those things you dump sand or dirt in and you, like, you sift it
Danny:out. Yeah.
Tyler:Right? Like, you keep sifting it out. Okay. I'm I'm mad at my parents because they got divorced and they I didn't have okay. So what does that really mean?
Tyler:Okay. Well, they were divorced and so I didn't look like the other Mormon families that I
Danny:grew up with. Okay. So I didn't look like that.
Tyler:Okay. Well, actually and and you you keep you keep asking yourself why until you get to that root cause. And if you can do that enough times, then you can get to, like, the real crux of Oh,
Danny:why you're feeling the way that you
Tyler:Why do I feel feel the way that I feel?
Danny:Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Tyler:I understand. Right? And so when I lash out at my ex partner and when I, lash out at my children,
Tyler:like, I start to understand myself better because I've explored myself better.
Danny:Right.
Tyler:And and the next step is, okay. Where are these things becoming unmanageable? And where do I need to put God in or or where do I need a higher power to help me out?
Danny:Yeah. Because, man, like, what you have a hard time with. Right? Like, you struggle with that a lot. Oh, yeah.
Danny:I That's a thing that you are like there was a time when it was like, no. Yeah. Even, like, right now when you said to put God in there, it, like, almost caught me off guard because I was like, how you talk about that right there is we've had some serious conversations with God.
Tyler:Yeah. And even the other day in the gym, like, professor brought up God, and I was like, oh, man. I don't I don't I don't believe in him. I don't believe in him. And he's like, oh, man.
Tyler:You can't think like that. And so, hopefully, we'll get a session on on on God. But, like, I I do believe that in, you know, I have I have this fascination with with Native American culture and the creator, the concept of the creator or creation. And so I've gone out and I've surveyed other people in ex Mormon groups, in in ex Mormon settings, like, how do you rebuild your faith? How do you how do you find God after you've kind of gone through this this transition?
Tyler:And for me, the the number one thing that keeps coming back is gratitude.
Danny:Sure.
Tyler:Gratitude is the base of any anybody who who has had an experience with a high demand religion that ends up going through through AA will find gratitude as the basis of their
Danny:Well and and honestly, like, being able to put, you know, like, not knowing means that you trust something. Right? Not knowing not and and not knowing doesn't mean that, like, I don't trust I don't trust this. It just means that I trust. I trust that there is something that's going to take care of me Yeah.
Danny:That's going to put rough things in front of me Right. But it's also gonna put really, really good things in front of me. Right. And which do I see? Yeah.
Danny:Which do I see? Do I see the rough things? Sometimes. Yeah. Can I then flip the script, change the narrative, and see that there's something out there that is going to take care of me?
Danny:Yeah. That is going to. Yeah. Yeah. When we've talked about, like, you know, God and stuff, and I've told you before, like, to me, man, I don't question it at all.
Danny:Mhmm. I don't question whether there's one. I don't question whether there's not. I just know that there's something
Tyler:There's something.
Danny:That there's something that takes care of me, that I and and sometimes when when when I'm not sleeping well and I've I'm like I'm like, man, I'm at the top and I'm at the tip of my and I cannot cope, and I have no coping skills, I pray, and I give all of my trust to whoever I'm praying to. Yeah. And those coping skills at that moment, I fall asleep, and I trust that that something's going to take care of me. Yeah. And, with men especially because, you know, you live in this world of who you're supposed to be and who you're who you who you expect to be and what expectations are of you from all of the people around you.
Tyler:Yeah.
Danny:Right? You have this idea and this fantasy of what you're supposed to be. And you and you see the fantasy. Right? You see, like, man, if you if if you spend enough time on social media, they'll tell you what a man's supposed to look like.
Danny:Yeah. You know, you'll see all this, like, muscly defined Yeah. Actually, one of the funniest things that that Wes what is his name, Wes Weston?
Tyler:I I don't know. I'm not
Danny:I think his his name is Wes. I I may be saying it wrong. I apologize if you're if he ever listens to this and I got it wrong, I'm sorry. But one of the funny thing he says is Mexicans are not able to become muscular muscularly defined. If you look at a Mexican, they cannot become muscularly defined.
Danny:And I've always been like I mean, I'm not and then I'm like, man, I'm not, like, that muscularly defined. But then I'm like, I I have some definition. You know? But it's like it's funny because then I'll look at a Mexican, and I'm like, oh, that's what he's talking about, big barrel chested Yeah. Small, really small butt cheeks, not tiny legs, you know.
Danny:And, I think, man, if I was to, like, buy into what he was saying, I would be bummed. Yeah. I'd be bummed. That dude would not make me feel good. You know?
Danny:Like, if he said that kind of thing, I'd be like, man, I'm bummed.
Tyler:I I I I truly do hate the cult of personality that has popped up due to social media. There's there's and and it's, you know, obviously, yes. I'm preaching against, you know, what I like to do and that is coach other men because I believe we need that we we benefit from each other. Right? If I can, if, if my experience can help somebody else out and and.
Tyler:I'm not gonna say I'm gonna prop not profit from it because I do I I charge my clients. I don't charge my clients more than it would cost to go to a therapist.
Danny:Sure. I don't
Tyler:I don't have a a $10,000 program. I'm not a high ticket coach. I just don't believe in it. I believe in my the the work that I'm doing. And even though my work is still in progress, I do believe that there's there's benefit to this community.
Tyler:But we see these high ticket coaches, and I think he's one of them. Yeah. He's one of them that sells a high ticket item. And I think it's there's people that can do that, and there's people that can afford that. And it's
Danny:I also think that he sells a he sells he sells something. Right? Like, a salesman is a good salesman. Yes. Right?
Danny:I believe that you and I help men that want to be helpful. Right. I if you change and you grow better, if you are a better person, in my mind, that to me is payment enough.
Tyler:Exactly. And my goal as a coach and my goal as a as an IFC coach coach that is is has has gone through a process of certification, the the, International Coaching Foundation. There is a standard for the type of coaching that can be done. And my goal is to not tell you what to do. If I tell you what to do, you haven't hired a coach.
Tyler:You've hired a consultant.
Danny:Agreed.
Tyler:You've hired a consultant, somebody to tell you what to do. And and that's great.
Danny:Yeah. You need me to yell at you and Yeah. Tell you you're a piece of shit? Like Yeah. That's not gonna help you.
Tyler:Can do that, and I can charge 6
Danny:figures to do that. Yeah.
Tyler:Trust me. You probably won't get a whole lot out of it. But if I can, like, help you I think I've used this term before. But if I can help you see the label from inside the jar Sure. Then I've taught you how to fish.
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:Not even just given you fish. I've taught you how.
Danny:Yeah. Agreed. And and and I think, like, the hardest thing for men to accept is help. Yes. You know, you want, like, a guy you're like, no.
Danny:Tell me how to look like you. Tell me how to act like you. Tell me tell me how to be you. Tell me tell me how you did what you did so I can mirror and mimic it, and I can then live a false narrative through what you're doing. But I'm never maybe, like, maybe 5%.
Danny:I I mean, I'm talking out of my ass, but a small percentage get get it correctly. The rest of them are paying for the service
Tyler:Right.
Danny:Of a salesman. Right. Like, they bought a car from that guy.
Tyler:Yep. Yeah. And they're and and and that you get sold.
Danny:And every couple months, you gotta buy a new car. Yeah. Or your or your car breaks down, and now you need to buy the part that is gonna make that car run again. Yeah. Like, what the hell?
Danny:Yeah. I don't wanna see you again. Right. I I want you to I wanna see you in a different light. I wanna see you, like, grow and help helping other persons.
Danny:And that's That's how I approach it.
Tyler:I agree. And I think that, like, there are some cases where having somebody tell you what to do in a particular situation for a particular x y z outcome. You and I in jujitsu, we maybe see ourselves as black belts.
Danny:Right.
Tyler:And so, we need professor to to guide us. Now, our journey is different on that path because it's so freaking long. But somebody that's wanting to get, you know, biceps or triceps or or 6 pack. Right? There may be a very prescriptive pattern that that works.
Tyler:Now is that the right pattern for you? You you you may go through 4 or 5 or 6 of these different guys, other guys that are building themselves as coaches to get to that.
Danny:Yeah. No. I agree with you. Yeah. I mean, like, as soon as, you know, you're you're in this space of, like, pain, you've invested.
Danny:It's an investment. Right? And I believe investing in yourself. Professor talks about that a lot, and and I think it's one of the greatest thing that he says. He says, you know, and I'm gonna probably get it wrong.
Danny:When he comes on, I'd really like for him to explain it a little bit more. But you're investing in this jujitsu. If you were if you were investing in something that was giving you, like, quick, quick Mhmm. Quick fixes quick fixes, it'd be a bad investment. Mhmm.
Danny:Eventually, it would be a bad investment because you're probably gonna get hurt. Mhmm. You're gonna get burnt out. Yeah. You're not gonna wanna be there.
Danny:So you're you're really not doing a good investment. Right. But if you keep coming back and you keep wanting to come back and you keep wanting to learn and you keep wanting to go, like, tonight, if you are after class after 20 rounds, we did a class, 20 rounds, and there was a group of us that stayed on the mat and kept rolling Yeah. And kept on there. If you are interested that much in something, you are making a good investment in yourself.
Danny:You are going to gain from this. Right? So what are we investing in? We're investing in what professors teaching us. We're investing in each other.
Danny:Yeah. We're investing in the academy. Yeah. Yes. Yes.
Danny:You there are investments that you can do that are really good investments. And some of them are so fleeting, and they're really bad investments. Maybe you have the means to do it. Not a lot of people do, and I don't think I think the that's the problem that I have, that I really have been struggling a lot with social media because, you know, sometimes I'll put I'll, put some things together for our podcast, and I'll put them on social media. And a lot of times, I I I feel good about it, but then I think, like, I'm spending so much time to see if people are looking, if I'm if if we're getting an audience, and I've and I hate it because it's, like, it's not who I am.
Danny:Yeah. I don't wanna sell that. Yeah. I really don't. I don't wanna sell you something that you cannot believe in.
Danny:Right. I want you to be like, I really enjoy listening to Danny and Tyler, what they have to say. One day, I hope to meet them. 1 day, I hope to train with them. 1 day, I have to shake their hands because something that they said changed an outlook or how I
Tyler:approach something. You wanna hear a wild story, and and this is probably good to to bring up here, but, we did our men's ascent course. Right?
Danny:Mhmm.
Tyler:And I had the opportunity to follow-up with one of the men that that was in the men's ascent course. I don't necessarily have permission to share his story, but I do wanna just provide you an update. But there was a young man that was there, and we will we'll keep it anonymous, just for his sake. But there was a young man that was there that was really struggling, didn't have a job, was into computers, and was, like, had just moved back home. Was and you could tell at the ascent meeting that he was really he was really depressed and upset.
Tyler:I I had the opportunity to to speak with this this young man's mother not too long ago, and I just said, hey. How is he doing? And she said, he is doing so good. He has landed a job. He's moved out on his own again.
Tyler:He was, like, really grateful and fired up after your ascent course. And man. And and and that's why we do it. Right? Like, we we kind of forget that we we we touch these these people's lives.
Tyler:Agreed. Because that course was when did we do that? End of last summer?
Danny:End of last summer.
Tyler:Like, August?
Danny:You know, and and and when we talk about with each other what we've done for each other, you know, because we've had, like, disagreements. Yeah. We we we have things that we do not agree on.
Tyler:Yeah.
Danny:Right? God being one of those things. Mhmm. Where I've told you like, Tyler, I don't like that you're doing this, that you're saying this right. But we always can find common ground and common a common unity in each other.
Danny:And the fact that, like, what we see for our future and what we see for our children's futures and what we see for each other's future is good. We don't have to, like, me, personally, I don't need to look that far ahead of what I need to do to make things better. Right. I need to make sure that I'm living my life the way that I feel comfortable doing. Right?
Danny:Mhmm. And if I don't feel comfortable making social media posts, I know that you're not gonna be like, hey, Danny. You need to get on the social media train. You need to get on that. I know I don't think that you're ever gonna force me to do something that that I'm not comfortable doing Right.
Danny:Or that you know that, like, I struggle with. Right? Yeah. But if you're like, hey, man. Like, I this is how I see things.
Danny:Mhmm. This is what I think you need to be better at, then I'm like, I appreciate that. Mhmm. Saying thank you and saying, fuck you could mean the same thing. You know?
Tyler:Wait. That it's I think it's interesting too. I mean, you're right. If I surround myself with people that all think like me, right, if all my friends watch CNN or all my friends watch Fox News, like, we start to suffer from group things. Now we don't necessarily start progressing.
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:We just start we just start, perpetuating the same ideas.
Danny:Yeah. Agreed.
Tyler:And and so I think that's why we need to have like, we need to learn it. As men, we need to learn civil discourse. We need to learn to disagree.
Danny:Agreed.
Tyler:Right? Like and and I think that's why road rage, as we talked about in the last episode, is such bullshit.
Danny:It is bullshit.
Tyler:We all think that we're better drivers than we really are.
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:You know what I mean? Like, we all like, we what? There's as far as I'm concerned, there are 16 drivers that are the best in the world, and those those guys in Formula 1.
Danny:Yeah. Yeah. You know
Tyler:what I mean? Those guys are the best. Nobody can come compare
Danny:to that.
Tyler:Nobody can do what they can do. We are not them. We're not even on the same level.
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:Right?
Danny:Yeah. It's so it's so funny. You know, Misty and I went to, to Colorado for that concert over the weekend, and and I'm still blown away by this venue that we go to. It's the Los Colonials, amphitheater in Grand Junction. And we go there, and the people that are performing there have usually performed in these huge arenas.
Danny:And this little small arena is it is so mom and pop and so small and so cordial and so, like, so, like it feels like it's so together because people are just, like, nice. Right? But these 2 guys, 2 of the biggest dudes that I've ever seen in my entire life. 1 guy's in the front row. 1 guy's right behind him, and they are ginormous men.
Tyler:And they're right in front of you, of course.
Danny:Thank god this time. No. Thank god this time. But the guy that was in the front row, he's standing
Tyler:Mhmm.
Danny:And he's he is he is man, he is loving life. He is so stoked. He is he he's singing, and and the stage I'm not tell when I tell you that this performer is right in front of him, the performer is right in front of him. And the performer is, like he is stoked that this guy is he's the only one standing up, screaming, singing, and the guy behind him is I mean, he looked like a giant when he stood up. Tapped that guy on the shoulder and said, sit down now.
Danny:And I was like, what? I'm sitting there, like, watching this, like, uh-oh.
Tyler:About to see the class.
Danny:This is about to see what happens. And the guy looks at him and goes, no. And he goes, sit down. And the guy said, I paid for these tickets. No.
Danny:And I'm thinking, uh-oh. This this is like yeah. This is these 2 dudes, and and they stood there looking at each other. The guy in the front row sits down, and he's not happy. The guy that told him to sit down looks back, and he's like, he's got this like, that's right.
Danny:I'm the man. Look. Right? And I was sitting there, and I was like, I was torn. I was torn.
Danny:Grateful because I kinda couldn't see. But then I was like, the guy's right. He paid for the tickets. So I go up to the security guy and go, hey. What's the rule on that?
Danny:What's the rule? What can he stand? He goes, he can stand right in front of his seat. He stands in front of his seat, he's more than welcome to. And I was like, oh, I'm cool with that then.
Danny:And these 2 go back and forth. So the guy decides the guy in the front decides, you know what? I'm standing up. I don't care what you say. Stands up.
Danny:And the other guy goes in front of him, and he's and he's looking at him, and he goes and flips him off. And I'm thinking, what in the world? What? This is insane. These 2 ginormous men are thinking that they're this the the the rest of everybody, getting along great.
Danny:Yeah. But these 2 men had to be in front of each other. Could not find they could not the whole entire rest of the concert, they could not find common ground. They were chirping at each other, telling each other to fuck off, and each of them thought they were right.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:You know? And I was like
Tyler:Did they seem like grown adults or did they seem like children?
Danny:No. They look like children.
Tyler:Right? Like, that's what's funny. Like, I've had to step back from some of my own behavior. But, like, you see this child coming coming out.
Danny:Well, and I was like, okay. Who's right? You know? And and both of them felt both of them felt that they were right. And that's where I think, like, that's where I struggle with as, as a man where I'm like, hey.
Danny:We can what what if we just were like, hey. You're standing in front of you? The the guy that was there, he could've stood up and seen over the top of him. He was that big. Yeah.
Danny:But I'm sure he felt I'm in the way of all these people behind me. I can't stand. How many times has that man stood up and people have been like, dang, come, please. Why are you just trying to Yeah. Yeah.
Danny:And his whole life is like, you know what? I can see from here. Yeah. And he thought he thought he was being a good dude by sitting down because he was huge. He had to have been 67, 68 easily and almost that size wide.
Danny:But it was it was it it it was, like, one of those things where I I thought about it for a while of, like, well, the guy that's standing is not wrong. And the security guard was like, no. It's not no. They can they can stand in front of your seat. Just don't stand on top of your seat.
Danny:Stand on top of your seat. And I was like, gosh, man. This is what a turmoil. What a what a complex turmoil that that these men are struggling with. Then you times that by, like, really, like, alcohol or some agro aggressive guy of, like, I've been told that I'm supposed to punch you in the face when we disagree, and we're supposed to fight.
Danny:You know, we're supposed to square up. And Yeah. I thought, I just I don't wanna be in that world anymore, you know, and and I'm I'm really trying my hardest to figure out a way to, like, continue to help men of, like, like you said, like, hey. We we don't have this thing figured out. None of us do, but we can learn.
Danny:We can all learn, and we can all be graceful, and we can all be grateful. Yeah. Just be grateful.
Tyler:Right?
Danny:We don't have to agree. We don't have to, like, we
Tyler:don't have to see eye to eye. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You're absolutely right. I think that's what's that's what's so fascinating about gratitude.
Tyler:Right? Is is it it does. It pulls you into the present, and you have to do it. For me, it has to be a daily practice. It has to be a religious a religious practice.
Tyler:And I notice I notice those of you who follow social media, you'll see a difference in when I was posting a lot. And then when I've gone silent, post post Nick Nick's passing and, like, processing all of that, like, it it it disrupted my gratitude practice, and it's disrupted my ability to to find and see and understand that there is there is good yet to come for for Tyler Clark.
Danny:For sure. Yeah. There is. There there is. And as long as you surround yourself pea with people that challenge you, that cheer for you Mhmm.
Danny:And that call you on your bullshit every once in a while, you're going to grow as a person. We don't know what the future holds for us because, truthfully, like, because life is fleeting. I mean, tomorrow's not guaranteed. Yeah. You know?
Danny:So living right now and Yeah. And and finding this idea to just live in whatever happens today, not live in the past because that's your ghosts. Like you said, that's the kind of thing that that makes you angry. It makes you frustrated. It makes you, like, pissed because things didn't work out for you in certain areas.
Danny:Right? And you always tend to lean on, like, what didn't work out for Danny. Mhmm. And then now I'm like, that sucks. Danny didn't have a dad.
Danny:Yep. And I don't I still don't have a conversation with my dad. Mhmm. You know? Misty asked me the other day, hey.
Danny:When's the last time you talked to your dad? And I was like, haven't called him. He hasn't called me, but I don't I'm not mad at him anymore. I'm not angry with him.
Tyler:Yeah.
Danny:I think you asked me if I you know, the about the dad. Do I call my dad dad? I do call my dad dad. And when I call him when I see my dad, it's like, I hug him. I tell him I love him, and I talk about my dad, and everybody's, like, stoked to see me and my dad together.
Danny:It happens maybe once every 2 or 3 years, you know, and, people have the idea that him and I have a good relationship, and I think we do. I think we have an okay relationship. But if I if I start to think about it and I start to think that I haven't talked to him for a while, I get pretty grumpy. Yeah. And and my my wife and them feel it.
Danny:You know? Wow. If I think think about some of the things that I did to my wife when we were first got married Yeah. That version of Danny, I get really mad at myself.
Tyler:It it's funny you use this term. Being in the past, those are your ghosts.
Danny:Those are your ghosts.
Tyler:And, I mean, that's that's true. When we find that we are when when I'm and I I'll speak for myself, and I know from my own therapeutic experience in working with with Joe, you know, depression really is founded in that in in the past. Depression is is founded even if you're dwelling on the good times, you're you're likely to become depressed because you are stuck in the past. Anxiety Anxiety was the other the other emotion on the opposite end of of depression. It's usually some sort of conspiracy theory you're telling yourself about the future.
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:You need to be somewhere. You need to do something. You need to
Danny:Yeah. Fantasizing.
Tyler:You're fantasizing.
Danny:Fantasizing. That's the other thing about, like, if you're not living in the presence and you're not and you're like, man, I'm trying not to listen and live in the past. You're thinking about the future. Yeah. And you're trying to fantasize this thing to come together.
Danny:Yeah. And you're future. Yeah. And you're trying to fantasize this thing to come together. Yeah.
Danny:And you're like you said, like, you're trying to, like I'm trying to make this life that, like, yes. Today is gonna happen, but I can't make I can't force tomorrow.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:Man. Yes. There there's this idea that infinite amount of money is going to make you happy. Right. It's not.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:I do believe what, Bob Marley says. You what is wealth? What is what is what is rich?
Tyler:Yeah.
Danny:What is rich? Money? Because I don't have a lot of money. Yeah. I have a lot of friends.
Danny:Right. I have a very rich life. I've in my personal opinion, Danny's life is very rich. I was I am so blessed for what happened, you know, tonight, for being able to sit here and talk with you, for to to be able to, like, to to to to voice how I feel about things. I'm very rich.
Tyler:Yeah.
Danny:You know, my wife told me some really, really cool news today. She told me some things that I just, man, it brought a tear to my eye, and I was, like, so proud Mhmm. Of her. And I had no idea that she was doing it, you know, and and she was she had done it by herself. And and I was like, oh my gosh, man.
Danny:She is so strong. Yeah. You know? And and I think that about things. And if I and like you said, if we if we're grateful if we're grateful, if you just show gratitude and and there's and there's times that you're just not going to.
Danny:Right. You're going to be pissed. You're gonna be depressed. You're gonna be you're gonna be you're gonna have some ghosts going on, and you're gonna be like, shit. This didn't work out.
Danny:Mhmm. You know, Nick's passing and this weekend is gonna be rough for you guys. Yeah. It's going to be rough for you guys. Yeah.
Danny:But it's also gonna be beautiful because you know what Nick would expect from you. Yeah. You know? Or vice versa. If if the if the shoe was on the other foot, what would you expect from Nick if if the shoe was the only one?
Danny:Yeah. Yeah. You know? And if we live in that past or if we fantasize about the future, we're doing such a disservice to ourself, and and and we're not going to we're not gonna be happy.
Tyler:Yeah. We're not
Danny:gonna be able to find that rich life. You know? Right. We're not gonna be able to find it. We're not gonna be able to have fun at jujitsu getting our asses kicked, crushed by Right.
Danny:Odong and and, you know, even just trying to smush you. Yeah. You know? You're like, oh, I didn't die today.
Tyler:I didn't die today. Yeah. Yeah. It's so it's so true. So presence.
Tyler:Presence. It's presence, I think, is important.
Danny:Is important.
Tyler:I think I think you owe there are areas where I specifically try to be present. And I and I I understand my own functional freeze state. When I'm at work, it's time that they're paying for. So I try to be present at work and do work things. I will turn off social media.
Tyler:I will, you know, if unless it's an emergency, I will somewhat put my kids and and family on the back burner.
Danny:Sure.
Tyler:When I come home from work, believe you me, work is muted. I am not answering emails. I am I am not engaging in Slack conversation. I'm not on LinkedIn. I'm my focus is on my family or if I'm at the gym.
Tyler:I think that's a beautiful thing about jiu jitsu is you have to be present before you die.
Danny:For sure.
Tyler:And tonight's tonight's moves were particularly brutal.
Danny:Yeah. And and the tiny details.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:Right of life and the tiny details of, like, making sure that you do stay in that moment were very present today with the class and then the rounds.
Tyler:Yeah.
Danny:Because you know when you see the people that come on and you're like, dude, I need to protect myself. Yeah. You know? And and I think that's part of it with, like, with with some of those things with depression and struggling as a man in the past, you know, you you need to understand that that is painful. Yeah.
Danny:That is painful. Yeah. And if you're not careful, like, you're you're going to get smothered.
Tyler:Well, don't be afraid to ask for directions.
Danny:Don't be you'll
Tyler:don't ask questions? Don't, yeah, don't be afraid to to ask for directions. Don't be afraid to ask questions.
Danny:What was it last thing you said be curious? Always be curious?
Tyler:Yeah. Curiosity.
Danny:Always have curious. Always, like, encourage, like, curiosity. Yeah. Okay. Tell.
Danny:Okay. Let's let's keep going down that question. Let's find some more questions. Yeah. Let's keep asking questions.
Tyler:Yeah. Seek to understand. Even if even yourself. Even yourself. Even you get curious about why why am I why am I holding onto that?
Tyler:Why am I holding onto that resentment? Why am I holding on to that thought? Why am I holding on to that belief that I believe that this guy should sit down and and I have the right to to demand him to sit down? Why? Yeah.
Tyler:Why do I feel the need to to stand in front of the guy who who asked me to sit down? Because he didn't ask me politely?
Danny:Because he didn't ask me politely.
Tyler:Right? Like, I I I understand. Like, it's frustrating that the concert venues kinda put you in these these scenarios.
Danny:I agree. If you're
Tyler:at a band, you're like, when you're seeing somebody good that you kinda wanna bop to, you wanna move to, you wanna stand up, especially when you're in those front rows. Got it. Right? Like and I think that's why some of the bigger artists have solved that by having the pit. Right?
Tyler:Like, the stand up around the the the Yeah.
Danny:That was in the front.
Tyler:Yeah. And they're, like, stupid expensive. I think Morgan Wallen's, like, pit took this for, like, 3 or 4 grand. Taylor Swift's or something insane. Insane.
Danny:You know what
Tyler:I mean? So but these little these little venues that I like to go to, you know, and because I don't love the stadium show. I don't wanna be around that many people. I love I love the intimate concert setting where it's
Danny:Which was even funny because when we went to the reggae concert, we'd complained about the fact that, like, everybody's bumping into us. You know? We're like, we're at a reggae concert. Yeah. Yeah.
Danny:Yeah. And and and then when you're, when you're when you're in that present state of mind, you can find happiness, like, you find happiness. You're like, okay, man. Like, we had a good time. Like, I had a good time, and it was cool.
Danny:And and, I love, I love learning. I love seeing new we went on a, we drove from not to change the subject, but this just popped in my head. We drove from, we turned down from Rangely and drove down into Grand Junction. I think it was Frodo. We came in Frodo.
Danny:But it's called Douglas Pass. Mhmm. And I thought about you because it's Douglas. Right? Yeah.
Danny:Yeah. I don't know if you've ever been on Douglas Pass. I haven't. It is so there's, you know, I've never been I think I've talked about this before. I've never been scared of heights.
Danny:I've never been scared of, like, nothing. I mean, I jump in the river. I jump in the lake. No life jacket. I've never been scared of very many things.
Danny:But this Douglas pass, you go up, and all of a sudden, you are coming down, and it is, like, straight down. I mean, it is like like this. And I thought, oh, man. That's gonna suck on the way back because you're on the other side of the road, and it's, like, straight up and down. Yeah.
Danny:Well, I had drank a little bit more than I should have. So Misty drove a little bit, and she's driving. She's driving. And the, the curves say 20 miles an hour sharp curves. And I'm I kinda, like, glance over, and she's, like, 3540 because she has a heavy foot.
Danny:And I'm like, don't say nothing. Don't say nothing. And we come around the corner, and it is a sharp ass turn. And she's like, woah. Woah.
Danny:Woah. Woah. And I'm like, slow the fuck down. Slow the fuck down. And I was like, I was we were driving up this thing, and I was looking over the edge like, oh my god, because it is straight up.
Danny:Yeah. It's crazy. It is straight up, and it's whiny. And she a couple times, she'd go fast, and the road is a little uneven. Right.
Danny:She's yeah. She sneaks over on the shoulder, and I was like, oh my gosh. But I thought, where did I when did I end up like this? Did I end up, you know, like, nervous and cautious of, like, these things? But it's a cool little drive, man.
Danny:If you ever go from 40 to 70, you can either go a little bit past dinosaur and cut through Rangeley and then come into Glenwood or Rifle.
Tyler:Yeah. But
Danny:we this one goes straight down to Fruta. And it is, man Yeah. Is beautiful.
Tyler:Anything to stay off 6.
Danny:Well, of course.
Tyler:Because 6 is, just gross.
Danny:Yeah. We always go 40 and then down to 70.
Tyler:Unless it's wintertime. Like, the last time we came back from Colorado, we did that down through Steamboat.
Danny:Oh, that's cool.
Tyler:Yeah. We but but because it was wintertime, I'm I'm guessing Rangely was it was, like, it was winter.
Danny:Oh, it was probably closed. It was probably closed. That that road's closed for sure. I think it was closed in the wintertime.
Tyler:Yeah.
Danny:Yeah. That that was kind of a little bit a little jot. But I thought but I remember, like, thinking about, like, the Douglas Pass. Yeah. And the, oh, it's the Tyler's Pass.
Tyler:It's the new pass. It's the pass.
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:My pass. Oh, man. I appreciate the conversation.
Danny:Same.
Tyler:Same. What do we got going on? We got, by the time this comes out.
Danny:You got a busy week, man. And and I, you know, like, I'm sure you'll feel the warmth of everybody around you and the fact that, like, you guys are gonna go through this, and it's gonna be rough. And and, you know, give your mom a big hug for me and Yeah. And tell her I'm thinking about her.
Tyler:Will do. We are we are I'm there's been some requests to livestream the the the celebration of life for for people that can't make it. Well, of course, the only way I can do that is on the podcast channel. So, if you're a a fan of the podcast, it may be available to you
Danny:Oh, very cool.
Tyler:To watch.
Danny:I think we maybe we go live, like, maybe we can go live and just put that you're going live with Yeah. If we get a chance, like, on Friday or something like that. Like Yeah. Hey, we're gonna be live at this time. If you decide to do it, we can do that.
Danny:Yeah. By then by this time this comes out, they should like.
Tyler:Yeah. It would have already it would have already happened. So, yes, I think I'm going to to make it. I I've gotta go test the the Internet. But there's some family just due to the circumstances because it is on Father's Day that we've just
Danny:oh, I forgot.
Tyler:They're, they're they they can't travel or or they don't have the means or or or well, for whatever whatever reason.
Danny:The next podcast that we do will be out of the bus. I see. Yes. We're gonna live bright. We are gonna podcast from the bus the next couple of, but we have a idea that we're gonna try to do this, and, I think it'll work.
Danny:I think, I think our idea is gonna be good. I think that when we we brainstormed it and we kind of presented it to some people, they were kind of like, oh, yeah. That's a cool idea. Yeah. And so then you guys are gone all next week, then Father's Day is this Sunday.
Tyler:Father's Day is this Sunday.
Danny:Man, Father's Day. That it's so funny how people, like, put on the social media that, you know, like, oh, it's another day. What does your father want? Nothing. He wants to be known that it's that it's his day and Yeah.
Danny:That you're gonna tell him to go do, a bunch of chores and stuff because it's What does his father say? You know, you gotta go mow the yard and, have a good time.
Tyler:Happy Father's Day to all the fathers barbecuing on their own day.
Danny:Yeah. So Trent advised me that I, said I was saying, Park City Soup. It's sup. It's sup. So, like, it's, like, what's up?
Danny:So when I was saying it, I was saying Park City Soup. I didn't really know how to say it, but it's Park City Sup. So that's gonna be on the 21st. That'll be
Tyler:Honestly, don't remember.
Danny:Yeah. I was saying Park City Sup. Sup. We'll be out there. I think you're gonna try to make it.
Danny:Right? We're gonna have the bus out there. We're gonna be out there, dance playing, paddle boarding. This will come out the Friday prior. Mhmm.
Danny:So if you're listening to it right now, it's tomorrow. So it'll be Yeah. Tomorrow. It's on 21st June, I believe. Second.
Danny:22nd June.
Tyler:22nd June.
Danny:It'd be fun. He's got that big pavilion down there, Jordanelle, rented out. They always have they're gonna have paddleboard races. They'll have food trucks. They'll have bands playing.
Danny:They'll have all kinds of shit that you can do there at Jordanelle. It's a really cool little gig. I don't I I I don't really have anything going on. We're gonna get ready for the super fights, and I'm gonna get my bus ready to to to go on vacations. Yeah.
Danny:That's it's gonna be a mellow week for me. I got to work a bunch of overtime because, we've had that paycheck and Yeah.
Tyler:That big action. Any news on Hawaii?
Danny:So today, I heard that, most likely, I'm gonna be on the list of selectees. What that means means dick. I mean, means nothing. Yeah. But it means that I'm at least in the pool of people that could potentially get hired.
Danny:Well, a guy told me today that he seemed like I had a really good shot because of my longevity in the agency. And like I told Misty, it could be just a, year vacation. We could just go out there for a year. They'll pay for it. Come back, and we don't like it, we just come home, and we just go about our business again.
Danny:Because I can retire If I got picked up, I would I could retire within a year. You know? And so Oh. This is just to see if I wanna continue to work a little bit longer.
Tyler:Nice. You
Danny:know, when you when you have nights like tonight, honestly, it I I second guess if I would ever take it.
Tyler:Yeah.
Danny:Because my life is here. Right? And my friends are here. Ruprooting myself just for money, I I I don't know if I'm that kind of a person. Yeah.
Danny:But if they pay me enough money, I might go. Yeah. We'll see, man. You know, it's it's a good it's a good option, and, you know, I don't know. Yeah.
Danny:Well, I'll I'll leave it out there for the, universe to decide and but nights like tonight, I when when Preston got his 4th stripe, I was like I had already, in my mind, been like, no. I'm not going. Because, man, to see that guy get his black belt would be Yeah. Yeah. I I would not miss that for the world.
Danny:Yeah. You know? So I don't know. We'll see. So, yeah, we have that.
Danny:I appreciate this conversation. We we brainstormed it a little bit, and I think we I think it grew legs like it always does. And we Yeah. We vibed off each other. Thanks for the night.
Danny:It was fun.
Tyler:Cheers. Thanks for the, the roles, and, see us see at Park City Jujitsu or on the next podcast.
Danny:See you guys.
Tyler:Cheers, everybody.
