Jiu Jitsu Lifestyle Part 2
Cheers. Thank you for being you.
Danny:Yeah. Thank you for being you, and welcome to the Lost Boy Scouts podcast.
Tyler:We're your hosts. I'm Danny. I'm Tyler. Nice.
Danny:Yeah. We're just gonna get right into it.
Tyler:Right into it. We're gonna taste some more buffalo trays because we both like it.
Danny:It's Friday night.
Tyler:It is Friday night. Yeah.
Danny:It's rainy. Winter will not go away here in Utah.
Tyler:It's it's it's crazy how much it's there. It just won't go away.
Danny:Right.
Tyler:We can't get rid of it.
Danny:I've been, like, betting my kids which which berm is going to melt first. And surprisingly, where we had everything, like, moved off, I had everything professionally moved off, it's actually gone. Wow. I mean, we're flooding.
Tyler:Oh my gosh. It's gonna flood. Build your ark. Here we go. Build your ark.
Tyler:Yeah. When I was telling Tyler whenever I, we drove down to, Provo today, and it was insane to me to see the avalanche coming down towards the road, and you could see the little path that it took. Ways. It's insane how much snow was there still. Right?
Tyler:And, right off the side of the road, there's still, like, a 10 foot, drift from where the avalanche went across the road. That's insane. Insane. Yeah.
Danny:There's so much snow.
Tyler:So much snow, and it won't stop. And it's raining now, like Tyler said, and it's just ugly. Yeah. We hate it.
Danny:I I mean, I probably could survive if we had a little bit of bluebird sky here and there.
Tyler:Yeah. Like,
Danny:Sunday was so nice, but, like, he gets back in that gray, that sad gray, and
Tyler:you're just, like, you get depressed. I'm done. Yeah. I'm over it.
Danny:Yeah. Gonna hit that red light therapy or Yeah. You know
Tyler:Something to give us. Something. Yeah. Head to Mexico. Head
Danny:to Mexico.
Tyler:Yeah. That's our plan. Our plan is to have us a little hacienda Yeah. That, we can all share down in Mexico. Yes.
Tyler:That's the goal. Yes. Yeah. That's the goal.
Danny:Yeah. Start growing some agave and brewed tequila.
Tyler:That's yeah. And one day have your own tequila brand. Yeah. That's awesome.
Danny:Yeah. Artisan. I don't know if they'll let a non because, like, the tequila, like whiskey is very it's very, like, craft. Right? There's a lot of craft that goes into it.
Tyler:So if
Danny:you've ever done, like, tours, I know they have, like, the first female. It's like I'm gonna butcher it, but, like, the whatever the maker is. Right? Right. The the, you know, the first one, the Casa de Grone, she she was, like, the first female one.
Danny:So I'm wondering if they'd let somebody out of the country, even if I live there
Tyler:Yeah.
Danny:Become one of those.
Tyler:I wonder if it's like an apprenticeship, that you
Danny:I volunteer as tribute. Yeah. I've yeah. I wonder if
Tyler:it's, like, an, one of those things where you go and you learn from somebody, but it's like an apprenticeship. And what if you you had some money and you're like, hey. I'm gonna pay you
Danny:to teach
Tyler:me, and then they're like, yes. Come on,
Danny:gringo. Sure. Sure. Bring your sunscreen, gringo.
Tyler:Yeah. Yeah. So, we're on episode 4 part 2 of our jujitsu journey.
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:We're not sure, how many episodes we're gonna do. Probably another couple, at least one more because we're gonna try to have a guest on that we'd like to talk
Danny:to. Yeah. Well, and there's so many parallels to your life, man. Much. Like, you have to do a deep dive.
Danny:And so when people are telling you to learn jiu jitsu, you listen to those guys. Yeah. This is it. This is the this is at least why we're doing it.
Tyler:Right. This is, this is the the follow-up to lost and reinvention and how we both feel that our lives were were reinvented when we were lost.
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:And jiu jitsu was a big part of that. So that's kinda why we wanna go into that. For sure. Yeah. And so, we're we like to start off with a story.
Tyler:We usually read a book. We have a couple books that we were looking at. We had, last week, we had the Gracie. Yeah. The Bible.
Tyler:The Bible.
Danny:It's known as the Bible, I think.
Tyler:Every time a professor sees somebody reading, he's like At the Bible. You're looking at the Bible, which is good. Yeah. We have Jujitsu University, which is by Salo Hibero, which is an amazing black belt. Yeah.
Tyler:I've seen a bunch of his stuff. I've watched a bunch of his matches, and I really like his, his game.
Danny:I I bought this book for for Christmas for myself because what I thought was interesting is he he breaks down every belt.
Tyler:Okay.
Danny:And one of the things that that I noticed is for the white belt, he said it's all about survival. Your mission is survival. Wow. And that's right. Like, that's that's what we're talking about.
Danny:Right? Like, you're learning to protect yourself. Yeah. What is survival but protecting yourself? Right?
Danny:And he's like, I want to expose the white belt to every type of, you know, jujitsu. There's nothing that's really off limits for the Oh,
Tyler:I understand. For the white belt.
Danny:Mostly because he wants exposure. Right? Right. He he knows that you're never gonna you know, you're not gonna learn or it it it was about exposure.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:He then goes into, you know, the blue belt and he and he says the blue belt next to the black belt is the belt you're likely to have the longest in his, in his, you know, academies. Right. Right.
Tyler:And I've heard that before, and I know in our academies, especially, like, blue belt is the belt that you learn so much that you think you know, and then you're like, man, I don't know anything about jiu jitsu, but it's such a long belt. My blue belt journey, I felt like was for ever.
Danny:Yeah. Well, you But I
Tyler:loved it.
Danny:I mean, there there's so much to be learned at each belt. So the mission in jujitsu university is escaping. Right. Right? You know a little bit about jujitsu, but there's really kind of a weight that comes with every belt, right?
Tyler:It does. Yeah.
Danny:For sure. Obviously, you you as a purple belt, you you know quite a bit about jiu jitsu, but not only do you know about jiu jitsu, you're mentoring other other lower belts beneath you Right. As and and bringing them with you. You're kind of like, mother goose a little bit. Yeah.
Danny:Bringing this Yeah. Bringing this No.
Tyler:I I do feel like, in your belts, you have a job, and I've talked about that before.
Danny:Mhmm.
Tyler:Your white belts are your lifeline. Like he's saying, I think you're exposed to a lot of things that you just don't know about, so you're learning The big thing that you're learning about is your body.
Danny:Oh,
Tyler:yeah. You're learning how, like, things hurt.
Danny:Mhmm.
Tyler:You're if you're not careful, you can fold a rib. You can hurt a knee. You can hurt a nail or a shoulder, and now you're out. And if you miss class as a white belt, the class is still moving. Yeah.
Tyler:And then it's like, oh my gosh. Every time I walk in, I feel like I'm brand new if you cannot make a consistent schedule. Right? Yeah. And we talk about that with you a lot, like, because of where you're at in your belt, like, we don't need to be to every class, but we have to be to a consistent class.
Tyler:Yeah. Right?
Danny:And what I mean is like building any habit. Right? And you you have to show up. Yeah. If you stop showing up, then then you you instantly the habits bunk.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:And something that is this physically demanding.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:And this physically challenging and mentally challenging. Right? It's very easy to just walk away and say, it's too hard or there's other life things that are going on that, you know, we can take precedent precedence.
Tyler:It it really is learning your body, but also learning what it takes to understand this new language that you're learning. Because that's how, like, we talk about it. It's kinda how professor talks about it is that it's like a learning another language with your body. Mhmm. And a white belt, you barely know how to say a, the big, like, 3 letter words.
Tyler:You know, you don't know you don't know very much about the language at that point.
Danny:It's definitely it's a progressive elaboration. Right?
Tyler:It really is.
Danny:You learn by doing and and you by doing and, like, that's our learned behavior. Right? Like, everything we learn as human beings is learned. You learn how to smile because you see your parents smiling. You learn how to, you know, have relationships with people because you're seeing it.
Danny:And and and so the parallels are there.
Tyler:They always are. And when we talk about, like, learning to like, when we talked about lost, like our pseudo self and our solid self Yeah. You learn very quickly that you cannot fake anything in jiu jitsu. You can't fake it, and you have to trust the professor or the instructor that's teaching you. Yeah.
Tyler:And a lot of times, what he tells you is there is never a time in jiu jitsu that he's gonna tell you use brute strength. That's gonna win everything.
Danny:Right.
Tyler:He's always gonna tell you to go slower
Danny:Mhmm.
Tyler:To be more methodical, to breathe, and that's how we approach life when we are lost in our pseudo self. Right?
Danny:Right. Yeah.
Tyler:We have to, like, change it.
Danny:Your children are screaming or they're upset and you're you're on wits end and you're exploding at them or you've got people in your office that are just getting under your skin and, you know, you're you're like a an ignition switch.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:Yeah. It's interesting.
Tyler:Yeah. For sure. And that's like, in anything in life. And so especially on the mats, you cannot tell you somebody, I watched this move on YouTube. I'd like you to show it to me.
Tyler:Here. Check out this video. A a good professor is gonna look at that and go, no. I know how to do that. But do you understand that the partner in there is doing half of the work Yeah.
Tyler:And making him look that good? Right. You know? And so it's never gonna be something that you can learn unless you're there,
Danny:Right. Which
Tyler:is like how life is.
Danny:Mhmm.
Tyler:Unless you actually challenge yourself to change or to improve, nothing's ever going to be more realistic than life itself.
Danny:Yeah. Yeah. You you have to put yourself in those uncomfortable positions. Right? Outside of our comfort zone is where growth really happens.
Tyler:For sure.
Danny:You know?
Tyler:And that's, like, a a good practice for jujitsu as a white belt is to start every role or every match with an idea or a goal that you wanna work on that day.
Danny:I remember professor encouraging that when I first came to the gym. He was, like, come with a plan. Yeah. And I was just, like, my plan was just to show up. Right.
Danny:I was hoping you would tell me what to do. Yeah.
Tyler:And that's what you want. Right? Yeah. It's never gonna happen like that. It's never gonna be where they tell you maybe I mean, there's probably some academies that are very structured, that have a very structured curriculum.
Tyler:Uh-huh. And I I personally have never been to a place where it's structured curriculum. I've always been to, even when I was fighting MMA, it was you walked in and whatever the professor was showing that day or whatever the instructor was showing that day, that's what everybody learned.
Danny:Yeah. Okay.
Tyler:Whether you were brand new or you were a black belt in that art form Mhmm. They showed whatever move of the day. When we were coaching wrestling, we would always say, well, our brand new kids would just need to catch up with the kids that we're showing the technique to. Mhmm. And it it did work, but there was no structured curriculum.
Tyler:Yeah. So when you fake anything, whether you're faking in in your life or you fake to get a job Right. You know, you people have done that before. I was
Danny:Oh, the fake it to make it.
Tyler:Fake it to make it. Do you hear that all the time?
Danny:All the time.
Tyler:It was like it was like
Danny:a theme for a a long part of my life, like, fake it till you make it.
Tyler:So when I first got certified as an air traffic controller, they told you, just act like you know what you're doing. Act like you've been there before. Act like you know what you're doing, and you will be fine.
Danny:The plane's going down, and Danny's like, yep. Yep. Everything's normal.
Tyler:I know exactly what's going on. Yeah. Giving him a vector. Yeah.
Danny:We've been there before.
Tyler:Yeah. Yeah. No. And and that was a very common theme. So anytime you walk into an academy, don't pretend like you know what you're doing.
Tyler:Don't ever give that idea that you know what you're doing because they may put you in a situation where you could get hurt very, very, very badly. Mhmm. Because they think that you are more than what you really are.
Danny:Right.
Tyler:So always go in there with the best intentions of, like, I'm not gonna fake this. I'm going to tell you exactly what I do. And maybe it's I've never done it before and I'm terrified. Mhmm. Maybe it's I have some wrestling background, but I don't have any jiu jitsu background.
Danny:Right.
Tyler:And maybe it's that, you have some grappling background, and you don't wanna tell you don't wanna tell a lie about that either because it'll be very obvious if you know jiu jitsu. You you won't be able to speak a different language.
Danny:Right. Right. Well, and I I just faking it. I can't imagine. You may be able to protect yourself.
Danny:Right? But you're gonna be on the defense the whole time.
Tyler:The whole time.
Danny:The whole time. Right? Like, I'm I'm trying to think of, like, how could I even fake it in on the mats. Like, I just don't feel like I could.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:I don't feel like I could.
Tyler:Well and that goes back to our our original podcast, The Lost. Right. When you're when you're faking something and how you actually feel inside when you're faking, when your pseudo self has taken over and you're, like, oh, man. I'm just gonna continue to to press this way because I've already told Tyler who I am. Right.
Tyler:Tyler believes that I'm this amazing jujitsu person or amazing something. Put input whatever you want. And now I have to, like, continue on with that lie, continue on with that pseudo self. It's not good, especially on the mats.
Danny:No. No. Man, you're just gonna get crushed. You're gonna get you're gonna get beat up and Could
Tyler:you imagine if you got really hurt?
Danny:I mean, you know, we did the landmark there's that landmark case that that just came out of San Diego, like, the you know, I I I believe I believe, like, there's a lot of buzz around it, and I don't know that much about it. Like, I'm I mean, I've seen the video. The video is terrifying.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:Right? And I don't know all the circumstances, so I can't speak to it too intelligently, but, like, that's the kind of scenario you can get yourself in.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:Absolutely.
Tyler:And I had a very, I had some in-depth conversations with Mona and Mike about it because I think about it a lot, hurting people.
Danny:Right.
Tyler:Or somebody getting hurt. Like, let's say, a person comes in and they to ask they say they're they're they've had some training. I'm really trusting them
Danny:to
Tyler:be honest with me. Right. And let's say that I put them in a position where they're training with us, and that person gets hurt. Right? And now I have to solely think about what's best for that person
Danny:Mhmm.
Tyler:And what's best for the academy. Right?
Danny:Right.
Tyler:And so I I never I don't I've I've read a lot about it. I've listened to a lot about it, and I I can't speak too much into it because I don't know I I have a lot of opinion about it. I and it's just an opinion. It really is just an opinion. And I would hate to hurt somebody or have somebody get hurt not knowing the realistic of do they know how to defend themselves
Danny:Right.
Tyler:Safely. And as a white belt, just so we're clear, your number one job is to stay healthy
Danny:Right. To
Tyler:stay on the mats because everybody needs you. Yeah. The academy needs you, Lifeline.
Danny:Right.
Tyler:Your partners need you because they need to be able to practice their techniques on you. Right. And you need it because you need your body needs to learn how to develop to learn jiu jitsu further. Right. Right.
Tyler:And so just, you know, I implore you, like, if you're out there listening and you're and you're wanting to start your journey or you're in a little bit of your journey Yeah. Talk honestly about where you're at. If if and if we can approach this as a life skill, don't think don't pretend that you are more than what you really are.
Danny:Right.
Tyler:And if you're struggling, if you're if you're, in a in a in a scary place, ask ask questions. You know, if you're I've had a couple friends in the last couple of weeks that have taken their own life, and I take that seriously. I I get very sad thinking that that person thought that was their only way out. Yeah. And maybe I, you know, I I I don't know much more we could've done because we don't know people's demons, but that's at the far spectrum of what we're Tyler and I are talking about with our with our podcast and with our friends
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:Is that we just want men to stay healthy. Absolutely. And jiu jitsu is a big part of our life.
Danny:Mhmm.
Tyler:We wanna encourage, our friends to start jiu jitsu and continue their jiu jitsu journey. Mhmm. But more importantly, don't give up ever.
Danny:Ever.
Tyler:And don't give up on yourself.
Danny:Yeah. No. There's there's I mean, it it is scary to think about asking for help.
Tyler:It is.
Danny:Absolutely me walking into the gym was a cry for for help. Right. Right? I was in a very dark place.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:Right? Like, I I knew I was I was getting the input that, you know, we are, like, I need this is what this is what I needed. I needed something to change. Right? There was some catalyst there.
Danny:Right. It very easily could have gone the other way for me.
Tyler:Right? Right.
Danny:And very easily could have gone to, you know, to to some something very dark.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:And but you you know, there's there's nothing wrong with a little bit of humility. Mhmm. There's nothing there's nothing to to be embarrassed about.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:You don't need to always posture yourself as this alpha.
Tyler:Sure.
Danny:I I think the the concept of an alpha is very flawed.
Tyler:Right. Right? Like I know. Agreed.
Danny:There are there are men that are better at shit than you. Always. Right?
Tyler:Yeah. Agreed.
Danny:And and you're going to be better than others at other things. Right. And it doesn't at the end of the day, like, it it doesn't matter. We attach a lot of we attach a lot of emotion to it, but
Tyler:we
Danny:are not our emotions. We're not our feelings. We are, you know, a collection of experiences that builds us to the the amazing human beings we are. And Right. Regardless of your story, you have you are amazing.
Danny:Like, it it I don't I don't care who you are.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:Right? You are you are there is something amazing about your story, about what you've survived, about what you've overcome. Right. Right? They can inspire somebody else.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:And so ask for help.
Tyler:Ask for help. You just do it. And somebody sees you as amazing. Yeah. Somebody out there sees you as amazing.
Tyler:And anytime you don't get that feeling, just remember, like, somebody sees you as amazing. Somebody does.
Danny:Right.
Tyler:And we wanna make sure in our own, as we go forward with our with our podcast and how we're talking to people that that we care, like, that we really do care. And Tyler and I Mhmm. Will never turn down a phone call.
Danny:Nope.
Tyler:We'll never turn down a DM.
Danny:Right.
Tyler:We'll never turn down somebody that says, hey. I've listened to you. I've thought about this. I need help. Right.
Tyler:We're never gonna go, okay. Thank you. I may tell you that
Danny:I don't have the skills to help you, but you know what? I'm gonna link arms with you, and I'm gonna figure out how to get the help you need. Yep. Right? Like, if I'm not the person, there's people out there that that are more skilled.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:Right? There's phone numbers you can you can call if you are in a very desperate place. Right.
Tyler:Yeah. Yeah. And and that's where going into our our, just looking, in life for our own selves as a white belt Right. Is always staying humble, staying, ego friendly, and remembering that, like, if you don't know, it's okay if you don't know. Somebody's going to either teach you, show you, or give you a path to know.
Tyler:Right. And that's how I feel about jiu jitsu. No matter what no matter what in my journey with professor and with the black belts in our academy and some of the upper belts that were that are there still, it didn't matter if I had a question. If they couldn't answer it, they would always go like, let's find the answer. We'll figure out the answer.
Tyler:And if they had, like, a solution, a lot of times, they would have to make adjustments for my body. Yeah. And they could do that. They can be like, okay. Well, the way this may work for me because I've got longer arms.
Danny:Yeah. Yeah.
Tyler:I don't have long arms. I don't have long limbs at all. And they would make adjustments.
Danny:Jujitsu is such a humility ego shift. Right? Like, in the world, we're all supposed to be posturing, but, like, you know, being able to ask like, if you walk into any gym just completely humble
Tyler:Right.
Danny:Completely, like, I know nothing. No one's gonna fault you. Right. They're actually gonna probably applaud your applaud your your ability to to be that self aware. Right.
Danny:I think self awareness is, like, one of the currencies of underrated currencies of of our manhood or of of us in general as a human species. Right? Our ability to be self aware.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:Right? And and allowing yourself to go into the an academy to to say, I I just wanted to learn this because I know that there's some something special about it. And I don't care. I mean, jujitsu great. Maybe it's Muay Thai, maybe it's MMA, maybe it's karate, maybe it's what whatever it is, you dedicate yourself to something boxing.
Danny:Sure. Right? You're getting out of your comfort zone and you're staying out of your comfort zone.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:Otherwise, we we you know, there's this old analogy of, like, the frog in a pot. Right. Right? You throw in a a frog in a in a pot of hot water, he immediately jumps his ass out. Right.
Danny:But you throw that frog in in, you know, lukewarm water and you slowly turn up the heat on his ass and you you next thing you know, you're you're eating frog. I don't know if he does.
Tyler:He has no idea.
Danny:Yeah. But, like, you know, the the concept is we have to get out of our comfort zone because we he, you know, we can't get comfortable or else we we get boiled. Right. And and jiu jitsu offer offers you that opportunity every time you touch the mat.
Tyler:Right. It does. And, when you get, a group of men around each other
Danny:Mhmm.
Tyler:There's all these different personalities that men bring to the table.
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:Right? And I believe that that's a great thing about jiu jitsu Mhmm. Is that you get all these men from all these different walks of life that they'll they would never meet or mingle. For the longest time in our academy, we had so many police officers in our academy. And you think about the personalities that we have in our academy.
Tyler:Right? Right. Some of us may have never had a good experience with the police officer Yeah. Until we went to jujitsu, and now him and I are training together. And what if I'm an upper level belt that's had a bad experience with police officers, and I'm, like, I'm about to tune this dude up.
Tyler:Right? And he goes, well, I'm never going back to jujitsu again.
Danny:Right.
Tyler:Yeah. And I think in this current stage that we're in, in this current environment that we are in in in in this in the world, all police officers need some sort of training how to handle a person on the ground
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:On the ground.
Danny:Absolutely.
Tyler:So that gives me a benefit when I'm talking to police officers of showing them this technique of how to control a person that's considerably bigger than me than Danny.
Danny:I still I still will walk past a police officer and kinda size him up and be like, I wonder if he trains jujitsu.
Tyler:Yeah. Yeah.
Danny:And I know if he doesn't, I know that I'm you know, I know that I'm gonna give I I could give him
Tyler:A run for his money.
Danny:A run for his money. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, he's gonna call the boys in the blue, and he's gonna swarm me. But, like, it's like it's like when you drive a fast car, you're like, can I get away with it?
Danny:Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I could get away with it. What would a road chase be like? Right?
Tyler:Yeah. Right?
Danny:It's the same it's the same It
Tyler:is the same thing.
Danny:Same thing. But they they do need they owe it to themselves.
Tyler:Yeah.
Danny:They owe it to themselves to protect themselves.
Tyler:Mhmm. Right? And then that's just one small sect of our our society. And then you think about young boys
Danny:Mhmm.
Tyler:Young men that are evolving quickly. Yeah. And that's where I think those young men could benefit from being around a group of men
Danny:Mhmm.
Tyler:That know how to mingle with each other that are from different walks of life. Yeah. We don't challenge each other to a fight. Mhmm. We don't speak ignorantly towards each other because once we smack hands, bump fists Mhmm.
Tyler:You better be able to back up whatever you're saying.
Danny:Well, and I think that's the that's the beauty. We may we may quip at each other. We may we may poke each other, but we know we know at some point the the balance is gonna be restored.
Tyler:It is.
Danny:Right? Like, I may I may, you know, I may I may tease a black belt, but I you know what I mean? Like, I know that, like, ultimately, the balance of power is going to be restored.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:Right? Like, I may be wittier than him, but he's definitely gonna, you know, choke me out 7 times in 2 minutes.
Tyler:Yeah. And that's why, like, if you teach these young men, young kids early on as white belts, you teach them to have this white belt mentality Mhmm. To never go in there with this idea that they know
Danny:Mhmm. And
Tyler:they're and always be willing to ask questions, then we can start to see a difference in our kids' classes with the kids that come in. Yeah. You start to see a difference with them, and that's where I think that's the benefit. Yeah. That is the benefit.
Tyler:When you can see that they are now grasping that once they ask questions and they see the results themselves
Danny:Right.
Tyler:Then the sky's the limits for them.
Danny:And I think the problem is is that we we tend to we tend to dictate to our children.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:And and we we tend to dictate to people when we and it comes from a place of ego Right. Right, where we tell we I tell you what to do. Right. Right? And and when I, without context, tell somebody what to do, I'm instantly encoding that into the fear centers of their brains, the front the frontal lobes, like, the the lowest form of our ability to process information.
Tyler:Right. Right? We what we're the whole idea is to remember that when you have this catalyst and these things that you bring together, what what how does it benefit how does it benefit when you are dictating to your child, like, I dictate this is what you're going to do? This is how you're going to do?
Danny:It never. It never. It's 0. 0. 0.
Tyler:But if you give them some instructions, some guidance, some options, some pathways to success, and you allow them to to pick which path. And both of those paths are the ones that you're helping them with. Right. Right?
Danny:When it's okay to be disappointed too. Right? Like, to give them options and to be disappointed. Man, how
Tyler:do you deal with that?
Danny:I don't know. I mean, I struggle with it every day. My son's 14, and I'm like, I he's he's his own person. I I mean, I I try to give him the a a wide boundary.
Tyler:Right. But at
Danny:the same time, I'm I I'm I'm always like, man, maybe he's spending too much time on his phone or maybe he's on his iPad or, you know, what are all these why isn't his room clean?
Tyler:Right.
Danny:You know? So I I'm I'm learning every day.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:I I have to approach my my relationship with my son the same way I approach jiu jitsu and the fact that, like, it's kind of a mental game at this point.
Tyler:Right. Are you do you give him, leeway to find his path from the questions that he comes up with?
Danny:Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, I I I pushed him for a long time to to pursue lacrosse, but I felt like that was pushing him to to my dream, my goal.
Danny:Right? And and I realized that there was a very kind of a narcissistic relationship there that, you know, I had I had to correct. I had to back off.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:I couldn't live vicariously through him.
Tyler:Yeah. And he's and he's very athletic.
Danny:Very. He's talented. You know, no matter what he whatever sport he picks up, he picks up. Picks up. And I'm I'm super proud of him as of lately.
Danny:He he he his school is within walking distance to the gym. He's been in the the gym lifting weights every every day for the last, you know, last month. Good for him. So and and I mean, he's he's it's I mean, I I'm not a gym rat. Like, I, you know, I can barely make it to jiu jitsu jiu jitsu 3 times a week, but he's been there every day.
Danny:And so, you know, that's his thing, and I I support it, and I'll continue to to, you know
Tyler:Guide him and Yeah. Help him out.
Danny:Yeah. Whatever he needs. Right?
Tyler:And jiu jitsu gives you that balance of being able to see that that the way that you do things might be slightly different the way that that I do things. And then just from limitations Yeah. Comes up with the fact that there's just things that I cannot do.
Danny:Right.
Tyler:And also vice versa, size and stature, there's just things that I can do that just there's nothing that you can do.
Danny:Absolutely.
Tyler:Right?
Danny:Absolutely.
Tyler:And that gives us a a chance to to be successful fathers for right now. Be successful fathers to be successful students and to be successful in our other avenues of our life.
Danny:Yeah. Right? Yeah.
Tyler:And if it wasn't for jujitsu, we wouldn't have each other. Right? But if it wasn't for the fact that our professor has dedicated his life to jiu jitsu and then has dedicated his time to giving back to Park City, to giving to Park City. I know he does a lot of things outside in the community with Park City. Yeah.
Tyler:We have outreach. He has an outreach program. Mhmm. He has some other avenues. He does women's self defense.
Tyler:He does things on the out on the outside that brings to the academy. Yeah. But he's been up there for 12 years. Yeah. Right?
Tyler:And that is a lengthy time in any event all of those jiu jitsu guys out there know that a a jiu jitsu instructor giving 12 years of his time to a city is is a very, very, very strong hold for our academy. Yeah. You know? And I think that the dedication that we find, we get, to our academy. So what do you want from an academy?
Tyler:Yeah.
Danny:What are you what
Tyler:are you looking for from an academy, Tyler?
Danny:That's a great that's a great question. Like, I didn't I didn't I didn't really know. I I had to approach this very methodically and I had to ask a lot of input from people that, you know, practiced longer than I did. I had the great benefit of having a a coworker whom I'm really good friends with that was way into jujitsu.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:And he he did a quick search for me and he said, here's the place to go. But I did check out 4 or 5 different academies. You know, there's a couple places that do some Nogi here in Heber, and then there's, you know, Gracie Baja in in Park City, and then there's I think I think there's another place in the
Tyler:There was. Yeah. I don't think there's anyone.
Danny:I mean, you you you can Google search for it. Right? But, like, at the end of the day, I was looking at, like, what was available to me at Park City. Granted it did take me 3 times to get in, but like the website gave me a a good enough impression of of what to expect there.
Tyler:Right? Like,
Danny:the the grooming habits and the Right. You know, what how how to present myself, the the the class schedule, like, what was actually available for me to take. And so, and that, of course, you know, knowing somebody who knew jiu jitsu, it was like, you know, this guy's Pedro Sour. This is, you know, this is where I would go.
Tyler:Right. And did you go did you have any expectations coming into the class of of did you know what ghee and no ghee was?
Danny:I had no idea that there was a difference. No none. Right. I assumed everything was in some sort of uniform, like karate.
Tyler:Right. Yeah. Which is the gi. So for those of us that, have never, went to an academy, seen an academy Yeah. Know what's going on, how it traditionally starts a traditional style is the gi.
Tyler:Yeah. That's the kimono with the belt. Yep. That's the traditional style. Not that no gi isn't traditional or that you don't have traditional, aspects of that.
Tyler:It's just that when you hear, like, the the original Gracie's talk, there are no gi practices where just t shirts and shorts just because they didn't they forgot their gis or something weird like that. You know? And so coming into it, were you what did the did the gi make you nervous?
Danny:Not so much other than I have a pretty burly amount of chest hair. Right?
Tyler:And,
Danny:I was worried about my nipples chafing off, like, in that episode of The Office where where they do the marathon. Yeah. But, it it didn't really it didn't like, one, I came in with just an expectation of, like, I need to do something. I need to do something to feel safe. Mhmm.
Danny:This is this is one of the most renowned martial arts. I mean, if you you turn on just about any popular real podcast, out there, you know, they're they're they're talking about jiu jitsu. Right. Jiu jitsu is, I I think, kind of hitting its stride right now.
Tyler:I believe so as well. You
Danny:know, and it it has such a storied history. Mhmm. You know, for the longest time, I thought, no, maybe I go learn capoeira because I've always wanted to learn to dance, but, like, also another Brazilian art. Maybe I just need to move to Brazil.
Tyler:Maybe. I might just
Danny:need to move to Brazil. I just at the end of the day, you I've watched enough UFC, like, it just, you know, I just knew that jujitsu was like it was legit. Right. There was something legit about it that I was attracted to.
Tyler:And I believe that's part of, what a lot of our listeners will feel. Yeah. They'll feel that same pool because of luckily, we have the UFC. Yeah. Luckily, we have some personalities and probably across your Instagram or your Facebook or your TikTok or your, Snapchat feed.
Tyler:I don't know if those actually have feeds. I know Instagram does, but I don't have any of the other stuff. Social media. You'll see 70s boomer. Strong personalities, and you'll be like, oh, I wanna emulate that person like we talked about Oh, yeah.
Tyler:In episode 1, emulating, a personality emulating a person that you're like, oh, I really kinda like that guy. Right? Mhmm. Or my big push right now is to bring all my wrestlers, all the guys that wrestled
Danny:Mhmm.
Tyler:And I'm like, hey. Wrestling has a shelf life. Wrestling has
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:This I can't continue to, wrestle like I wanted to. I'm just a quick backstory. I went to Spokane last weekend for, women's nationals. Amazing. Amazing the way that the the women are catching up with the men.
Tyler:Their level of their skill, amazing. Shout out to women's wrestling. Grow it. I appreciate it. I love it.
Tyler:Yeah. I feel I believe the same thing about jiu jitsu. Keep growing it. Keep keep bringing in those people that are that are wrestling and that are keep coming to jiu jitsu.
Danny:You know what I find? And and maybe we'll get some some female jiu jitsu players out there, but you know what I find? Like, there's this big argument of transgender in in sports right now, like
Tyler:Right.
Danny:Like, it's to me, it feels like a mute a mute point in jujitsu.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:Right? You take size and weight out of it. I I'm willing to bet that if you put, you know, a 145 black belt female and a 145 black belt male on the mats that you would have arguably have, like, a fairly fair match. What do you think?
Tyler:I I actually don't know. I don't know. I do think that there's a difference in skill and or with with just, the way that we're built. Yeah. But I do believe that I've trained with some women that literally I know could destroy me and do destroy me.
Danny:Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, it I I really do think you could take gender out of it if you were to put same weight class, same, you know, belt level, same amount of training. Right? You got, you know, I I think I think it'd be an interesting social experiment.
Tyler:Sure. I I I don't know. I don't know enough about that, and I don't know if I have a a vested interest in that, honestly. But, when you go to an academy and you the the biggest thing that you're going to notice is, the mats Yeah. How the mats look, the smell, the smell, the feel, are are is there a buzz?
Tyler:There's an energy. When you go to our academy, both academies, Park City and Lehigh excuse me, and Lehigh, both of them are buzzy. When everybody starts to show up, it's like a it's it's another energy level that you're like, and then, everybody starts to show up and it's like and it's like a it's like a little honeycomb of bees, and everybody's ready to go and everybody's touching each other, and they wanna, like, start grabbing.
Danny:Yeah. Yeah.
Tyler:I think that's a big thing. I think that's a huge thing. For me, personally, I also want to see that the black belts and the upper belts are they may show up late, like the funny joke of the purple belts don't have to show up for warm up, but are they on the mats? You know? Are they are they there?
Tyler:Yeah. You know? And as a white belt walking into academy, did you even know anything like that? Would that have even registered in your head?
Danny:I mean, like, the the the kind of sports specific tropes, no. Like, I've I've kind of fallen into it. I had no expectation. Like, no.
Tyler:Yeah. I think that's a good that then that's good for us for our for our listeners. Yeah. Make sure that's buzzing. Make sure you feel that energy.
Tyler:Make sure you feel like, oh, this is kinda cool. I wanna be a part of this.
Danny:It it didn't take I think it was my 1st Sunday. To be honest, my 1st Sunday was when I was like, I need to be here. Like, I was excited to be there. Like, y'all passed out beer at the end, and I was like, this is my kind of sacrament. Right?
Danny:Like, I was exhausted, drenched in sweat, like, could hardly move, like Yeah. And then, you know, Danny came around with the the Pacific code, handed everyone one, and it was like the sweetest nectar of
Tyler:Of what we want.
Danny:Oh, yeah.
Tyler:Yeah. Because because we've We've earned. We've already talked about this. There's nothing like a beer, a cold beer after open man on Sunday.
Danny:And and you earn it. You have to earn it. No. Right? Like, you know, you have to earn it.
Tyler:So you may go walk in and you may see, you may see the professor. You may talk to the professor. He's probably gonna give you some some advice, some good some good knowledge leading up to your 1st class. And then what I would say is to remember to take care of yourself, which means don't expect to roll quickly. Mhmm.
Tyler:Take the time to do the class. Take the time to let your body warm up to jiu jitsu. Mhmm. The last thing you want to do is separate a rib, 1st class, 1st open bat when you don't know what you don't know. And next thing you know, you're hurt and now you're off the mat for a couple weeks.
Tyler:That's the last thing we would need. So take your time. Warm up.
Danny:Right.
Tyler:Did you roll right away?
Danny:I think I I think I went to about a week's worth of of training before I started Open Mat.
Tyler:Yeah. Yeah. Were you
Danny:I stayed and watched several open maths.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:Like, I stayed in I stayed my first few classes and and watched just so I could I could be aware, but, like yeah. I I I mean, I I kind of there wasn't any hurry. Like, I knew I wasn't going anywhere.
Tyler:Yeah.
Danny:I kind of told myself I wasn't going anywhere. The only place I'm going is here.
Tyler:Yeah. Good. And and then take your time with understanding the lingo. Yeah. The language.
Tyler:Yeah. The etiquette. Be gentle with yourself on that stuff. Sure. Be so gentle the fact that you are gonna make so many mistakes the first however many years you're doing it, you're going to make so many mistakes.
Tyler:Even as a black belt, I'm sure you're going to make mistakes.
Danny:Absolutely.
Tyler:You're going to have moments where you're maybe say the wrong thing, do the wrong thing, act the wrong way, but remember that to be gentle with yourself in this art. Because it really is time consuming, mentally consuming, and we want to understand that it it's gonna be ever evolving and it's always gonna be growing.
Danny:Yeah. Yeah. Right?
Tyler:Yeah. How do you stay mentally focused as a 4 stripe white belt to come to class?
Danny:To me, to stay mentally focused? Well, 1, having an accountability, buddy, without a doubt. Personally, I just need that that accountability. I need somebody to call me out.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:I need it. That's I mean, I'm just part of what I was looking for in in in my life. 2, just truly wanting to throw myself into something where I could be completely humble. Right.
Tyler:Where
Danny:I knew nothing. Right? I'd I'd coached lacrosse and I'd kinda put it on put on this lacrosse persona that I was x, y, and z. I I I worked and I kinda had this work persona that I was x, y, and z. But, like, I felt like I could walk into the jujitsu academy, and I didn't have to be anything.
Tyler:Man, such a good feeling.
Danny:Right? Like, I didn't have to be anything, but just somebody who didn't know nothing.
Tyler:I love that.
Danny:Right? Mhmm. All I know is that I don't know nothing, and that's fine.
Tyler:And so that means always remembering to stay a student. Yeah. To be a student. To never think that you're an instructor. To never think that you're actually teaching.
Danny:Mhmm.
Tyler:Go in there with the idea that you're just gonna be a student and you're just gonna learn. Yeah. If it doesn't come quickly, it's okay. Yeah. It's gonna get there.
Tyler:You know? And so wrapping that part up, remember also, find an academy, in my opinion. Find an academy that teaches you self defense.
Danny:Mhmm.
Tyler:That that teaches you to to defend yourself, not in the academy sport jujitsu with mats that are soft, but out in the streets. I always like to tease the mean streets of Park City and the mean streets of Hebert. If you're in Utah, you'll get the joke about that. But remember, like, the the reason why you're learning something, the reason why you're dedicated to that is so that when you're in a very stressful situation, you know how to deal with it. Yeah.
Tyler:And one of the best way, walk away.
Danny:Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I remember there was, like, a few weeks ago, there was a some young lady that was attacked in a gym, I think, down in Texas.
Tyler:I remember seeing that video. Yeah.
Danny:I think I sent it to you. Right? Dude runs up behind her, grabs her by from around the shoulders, around the arms, behind the back, and, like, I I I was just like, I know exactly what I would do in this situation. Does my daughter? Yeah.
Danny:And I sent it to her, and I said, we need to do the the women's, women's self defense class.
Tyler:Yeah.
Danny:And I think I think too, you know, from a somatic, like, personal experience, like, I was looking for a way to feel safe with inside of my own own body. Right. There's a fabulous book about, jujitsu and trauma. Those those people who have survived, whether it be physical abuse or sexual abuse from some sort of predator. And and there is there is some satisfaction and some science behind training a martial arts like like jujitsu.
Danny:While it can be triggering to to put yourself back in those situations, there is some healing that is actually can can happen because you're learning to defend yourself from those situations. So you can kind of learn to forgive yourself to say, I didn't have this tool previously, and now I do. And so moving forward, like, you you there there is there's a lot of, yeah. It's it's I think it's transforming trauma through jiu jitsu or something like that. We'll link it in our, our website and and on our social post this few weeks.
Danny:But, incredible book if you've been in those those type of situations.
Tyler:That's heavy. Yeah. It's heavy. It's heavy because it probably learning how to breathe
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:Learning how to focus your energy
Danny:You're right.
Tyler:To, to to a certain point. Yeah. I bet that's huge for people learning how learning to deal with that trauma to get re centered and regrounded. They probably have to go through a bunch of things to learn that. And when you're getting crushed, and you're getting your ass handed to you, right, that can even equate a small even a small portion to having some actual trauma
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:To actual trauma. Actual trauma that you that you need to learn how to ground yourself so we don't lose you. Yeah. So we don't lose you to your thoughts and to your evil demons Mhmm. That tell you and all those evil voices.
Tyler:We need to learn how to to deal with 1 in one instance and then really put some effort into dealing with the other in the other instance.
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:You know? I like that. I I really like that. I've that that's it's an interesting way to look at it.
Danny:It it it is. And and and I know that my experience was light, but I I shared this on the last episode, like, just not feeling safe in my body.
Tyler:Like Yeah. You said that.
Danny:Like, being putting myself in those situations while I have never been one, you know, in that type of situation, like, there was definitely for me a very somatic, like, I I know that there's a secret move that I can use to get out of this at any point. Right? But I'm going to challenge myself to push myself to the limit.
Tyler:Right.
Danny:Right? That doesn't mean I'm not tapping when I've got, you know, professor, you know, yanking on my arm or or or putting me in a in a in a difficult situation. It's it's learning to recognize and not disassociate Mhmm. And to be present. Right.
Danny:And to be connected with my body and to listen to the message that messages that, you know, this beautiful thing is is telling me what to do.
Tyler:Right. It does. Yeah. And I think that's the the last little part of, like, when you're looking for an academy during open mat, at our ages, we really want to know that our partners are gonna keep us safe. Yeah.
Tyler:That our partners are gonna, like, take care of us. Yes. They are going to practice their moves and they're going to if you give them energy that that is that they respond with the same energy Yeah. Then remember that it's probably your energy that's dictating that energy.
Danny:Yeah. If you go in
Tyler:there and dudes are just kicking the crap out of you and you're, like, I don't even know what I did, maybe wait a little bit longer for open mat.
Danny:Right.
Tyler:Wait for your body and your mind to catch up. Right. Or maybe come to Park City Jujitsu, Park City or Lehigh, and see exactly, like, you the energy should always be good. Yeah. And if it's negative, it's probably because, something's in there throwing off the energy.
Danny:Absolutely.
Tyler:You know? And if it's constantly like that, if it's constantly, I don't feel safe in the academy and, you know, I don't feel like I'm gonna keep going back, time to change. Right. Time to move on. Time to find a different place, and that's okay.
Tyler:Not not every academy is for each person.
Danny:And not every and not every person can handle the weight of each belt. Right?
Tyler:Agreed.
Danny:Right? Like, not we we we haven't even talked about the weight of each belt. Yeah. You know, we Yeah.
Tyler:Maybe we'll touch on that, like, on the next time. We'll we'll talk about, like, how how to respond when you start getting your stripes Right. Your promotions, each of those things. Because when you're in your journey, you're going to, come to class enough that you get your first stripe. Yeah.
Tyler:You're gonna come to enough classes that you're gonna get your first belt. And how you respond to those is just as important as walking in the door the first day.
Danny:Mhmm.
Tyler:Don't you think?
Danny:Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. It's it's your progression. Right? You can choose to let it go to your head, or you can choose to remain humble and and keep keep trying.
Tyler:Yeah. And that's as we wrap up and as we finish up this this, this episode, which has been great.
Danny:I do.
Tyler:Remember, like, don't quit.
Danny:Don't quit.
Tyler:Don't quit. Don't quit learning. Don't quit learning how to be a better husband. Don't quit learning how to be a better father. My wife and I had this conversation today.
Tyler:She was, she had kinda gone into a little cocoon. I know she's not gonna I know she doesn't want me telling all of her stories, but she's not gonna mind this. She had gone into a little cocoon, and she was self protecting and self self making sure that herself wasn't getting hurt. Yeah. And I kept reminding her, like, hey.
Tyler:Call your coach.
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:Call your friend. Call Yeah. Reach out. And it's just a gentle reminder, like, that you need you always need help. But when you start to go inside those cocoons and you start to, like, protect yourself from what's going on to the outside Yeah.
Tyler:It's a very, very, very big indicator Yes. That something Yes. Needs to change.
Danny:Absolutely.
Tyler:Something needs to change.
Danny:Absolutely.
Tyler:And Tyler and I know that about ourselves. We know that about each other. We know that about our significant other, our kids, but we also know it when we see somebody in the academy that's struggling. Yeah. And you're like, something needs to change and
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:And we need to be able to say to our friends and our family members, ask for help. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Danny:Yes. Do we wanna shout out Preston?
Tyler:We do.
Danny:We wanna shout out Preston.
Tyler:Just remember that, you're always gonna meet these interesting personalities, and we talked about Preston last time. Preston is a big a big a part of each of professors' academies. Everybody at both locations knows Preston.
Danny:Yes.
Tyler:And, just just remember that that's the thing that you want. You want to have somebody that you're like, each of us know that person that's gonna reach out to you.
Danny:Yes.
Tyler:And Preston called us, and he was giving us some, cool information about our academy and how him and his. So him and his family all listened to our academy I mean, to our to our jiu jitsu podcast. Yeah. And last time, he was like, man, such a great such a great thing that he that he that he wanted to share with us. He wanted to share, and he said that, he had just gotten promoted to his brown belt.
Tyler:Right? And so he didn't know if he felt that he was ready for it. He didn't feel like he was that he was ready for it.
Danny:It's so crazy.
Tyler:Yeah. And you know, like, you're, like, man, he's a monster. Right?
Danny:Well, no. I just I had so much pride. I was, like, dude, I know that guy.
Tyler:Yeah. Yeah. Because seeing a brown belt, like, we don't have very many of them. No. I yeah.
Tyler:And so, he he called me, and he was saying that that that he was telling me about how great, like, that his family had listened to the podcast and that he had thought. I wasn't sure that I was ready for that brown belt. And then all he said was, then I remembered. Professor promoting me to that brown belt. It's okay if, like, I don't feel comfortable in that brown belt.
Tyler:He feels comfortable giving me, promoting me to that brown belt, and all he has to do is to continue to come, and he'll grow into that brown belt.
Danny:Absolutely.
Tyler:And I thought, what a great way to look at to look at it. Yeah. What a cool way to look at it. Right? You may not be ready for things.
Tyler:You may not be ready to be a dad. No. You may not demand that. They hand you that baby, and you're like
Danny:Oh, shit.
Tyler:Oh, shit. But guess what? You're gonna grow into it. Mhmm. You're gonna grow into it.
Tyler:Don't give up. Yeah. Don't give up. You may you may have to quit things that are just bad for you. Yeah.
Tyler:And it's okay.
Danny:Yeah. Just just What are you willing to sacrifice What are you willing to sacrifice? To become your the best version of yourself.
Tyler:So true.
Danny:Yeah. What are you willing to sacrifice to become
Tyler:I started to kind of ramble a little bit because I was thinking about Preston, and and I started my words started to, blend together because I can see his face and, like Yeah. Think about when he was telling me that. And I thought, man, what a he you know, you you really need that in your you really need those guys
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:That you attach yourself to that when he gets promoted, you get promoted.
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:You know? And I think that's such a great thing in our academy.
Danny:Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. It was interesting too that at that ceremony, like, Aaron, the blue belt he was he was mentoring that that he was one of the first guys I met who had just started he I think he was a month ahead of me in his journey, and now he's a blue belt, and now Yeah. Preston's a brown belt.
Danny:And it's like you you have excitement and pride for these people that that you, you get to share the mat with, and and you build a community. Yeah. And and as you as you you talked about it, you know, professor is not only has he built a community amongst his his his gym rats, but he's expanded that community into the larger community of Park City, the larger community of Heber, and, you know, he definitely influences the community we we're trying to build here with the lost Boy Scouts, with the podcast, with our personal coaching, with with each and every thing that we we do. He's he's he's infused, you know, his his philosophy and his messages, in that. And I think that's that is our call as men, is to is to pass down the good, to to lift each other up.
Danny:Right? Like, it's easy. It's cheap. It's cheap to to beat each other down. It's more it's very difficult to build each other up.
Tyler:It is. Yeah. No. You're right. And I and I think, one of the funny things that professor at one time told me, he said, eventually, you will start sounding like your professor.
Tyler:And I and I thought that was, like, what? Maybe he's, like, talking about, like he talks, like, master's hour sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. But that's not what it is.
Tyler:It's that you regurgitate the good things that they tell you. And I tell those so I hear myself sometimes and I'm like, I sound just like professor, and I get so excited thinking about that. And, that's that's what I think about when you when you're looking for something, that's what you want. You want that community. You want that common unity
Danny:Yeah.
Tyler:That will bring people together that will make you excited.
Danny:Yeah. Right? And it it it it circles. Right? Like, there's there's it's constantly in motion.
Danny:You'll find it at more than one place. As we wrap up this episode, Danny, like, you agree with us, don't disagree with us. Like, what where can we find, you know, and and connect with more?
Tyler:First things, you can find me on Instagram, Facebook, compassionate_gentleman, and I train at Park City jiu jitsu. I'm always there. If you like I said, if you before, if you if you don't see me there, you can ask if I'm if I train there and most people know Danny. Danny? How about you?
Danny:Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, Park City jujitsu, we're there. Disagree with what we have to say, and let's let's work it out on the mats. Agree with what we have to say and come find out for yourself.
Danny:You know, always, Lost Boy Scouts website, lostboyscouts.com. We're on Facebook, finally, Instagram, Twitter, or just hit us up at hello at lost boy scouts. We wanna hear from you.
Tyler:We do.
Danny:You know, if you're struggling, if you need something, if you have feedback, if you have questions, we wanna hear from you. We wanna hear from our audience. Leave a comment, you know, find us on social media. We're we're about connecting with like minded or unlike minded individuals. I have no problem, meeting you somewhere and and and giving you the business.
Tyler:Yeah. For sure. Don't forget, Sunday, open mats, 11 o'clock.
Danny:11 o'clock. Cheers.
