From Tower to Trail: A Legacy, a Dog, and a New Life

Danny:

Alright.

Tyler:

We are back as Tyler's telling Riley in his native tongue to Yeah. Chill the bug out.

Danny:

Yeah. She is a she's she's the best personal trainer I've ever I've ever got ever had.

Tyler:

Yeah. She doesn't take no for an answer,

Danny:

No. And it's been brutally cold this last week or so. So, like, she has to, like, walk. I mean, she has to be I have to walk her. Right?

Tyler:

Like Yeah.

Danny:

There's no no. There's no no. So yeah. You can see her, like, begging for my attention now.

Tyler:

You were gone for how long? Just an hour?

Danny:

Just about an hour. Just about an hour.

Tyler:

Yeah. She doesn't take no for an answer.

Danny:

No. She needs something to be doing. And I I need to be better. I'm to a point where I've I've plateaued. I need to get back in with the trainer and, like, she's gotta start doing scent work.

Danny:

I can tell she hasn't really found her nose.

Tyler:

Yeah.

Danny:

What I've been doing in the morning to just and in the evening to just kinda wear her out is I'll tie her food and, like, I'll roll it in a towel and tie it in a knot. And she has to figure out how to get to it.

Tyler:

And does she?

Danny:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. She spends a good forty minutes, like, sniffing around it and, like, shaking it and unrolling it and yeah. And then she's, like, kind of, you know, wound down for a minute.

Tyler:

Yeah. But Did you know that, like, when dogs go on walks and you let them smell everything Mhmm. It tires them that tires their brain out. Yeah. Like, it really gets them Yeah.

Tyler:

They come home and that's kinda why they're kind of not only like, you could take your dog on, like, a, you know, two, three mile walk in the mountains and their system overloaded in their with their scent, come home and they're like, man, I'm, like, a little worn out. And your dog's kinda, like, laying there. Yeah. And you're like, man, we didn't even go on that long of a walk. But in there but because of the scent and everything that's going on, it is kind of a lot for them.

Tyler:

Ain't that wild?

Danny:

It's so it is. It's it's so fascinating. I took her on a walk with a bunch of other dogs and they all got off leash and it was like

Tyler:

Even her?

Danny:

Even her. And she was like, they were they were so worn out by the time we did finish the hike. It was like, it was great. It was like the best day for her ever. Who who

Tyler:

was you with?

Danny:

It was it was the actual camel group I've been doing some training with. I need to get her name and and rep her because

Tyler:

What what's the what's the requirement for the dogs? Just no fighting? Or do they if they fight Yeah.

Danny:

I mean, they have to I mean, obviously, it's their way of kind of growing their business. They they kind of host these like weekly or monthly walks.

Tyler:

Okay.

Danny:

And so typically, it's their your enrollment, I think, in in their program where they just, you know, you're now you're on their text chain. Okay. Kinda like we do with the jujitsu guys. Sure. Hey, that's a little rough.

Tyler:

That one hurt?

Danny:

I mean, yeah. She's

Tyler:

Yeah. Does she like chew toys?

Danny:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I've noticed recently, she's she's pulled holes she's pulled holes in the beddings, the bedding that I've given her. And she's starting to pull there's a there's a place in my carpet that wasn't pinned down very well, and she's found it.

Danny:

Oh. And she started to pull out it a little bit. I've noticed. I've noticed. But but she's she's great.

Danny:

She's super fun. She's, you know, she's just more work

Tyler:

than She's a child.

Danny:

She's a child.

Tyler:

That that that that does not accept get the way of Halloween from me.

Danny:

Yeah. Go watch TV. Yeah.

Tyler:

Go play with your iPhone. Get her an iPhone.

Danny:

Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Danny:

Not at all.

Tyler:

New year.

Danny:

New year. New me.

Tyler:

New year. New

Danny:

me. New year. New Danny.

Tyler:

New year. Danny.

Danny:

Danny's celebrating. He crossed a milestone. First podcast of this season. First day

Tyler:

Yeah. First day retirement. Of retirement. Technically speaking, my retirement doesn't start till January, but my last day of work was yesterday.

Danny:

Okay.

Tyler:

Yeah. Talk about some emotional roller coasters, and I wouldn't say distress. I would say emotional roller coasters. Yeah. I I had some ups and downs, but for the most part, I was pretty good.

Tyler:

I was like, I I had some cool experiences. We reminisced a bunch the last week. I did work a lot of traffic, which is kinda nice because I noticed that I was a little distracted. Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler:

That I, you know, I'd be given doing something. I'd be like, oh, oh, shit. Yeah. That should not be. Might wanna put me somewhere safe.

Tyler:

Yeah. Yeah. I had one of the cool experience coolest experiences of my entire career. My buddy is a is a photographer. He's one of my best friends at the Okay.

Tyler:

At the at the TRACON. He's a his name is Patrick DeWall. Shout out to Patrick. I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna put on there that I that I gave you a shout out. He if you wanna see some cool aviation pictures, if you wanna if you wanna if you wanna get some he he he knows how to do it where you are there and he can get a picture of the plane in the background.

Danny:

Oh, cool.

Tyler:

He has some cool shit. I've seen a bunch of his work yesterday. So he and my other buddy set up where I went out with him, and they took a bunch of pictures of the

Danny:

Sorry. This is the the problem with having a dog on set. The the podcast dog is just freaking out. I guess that's why people don't do it. But

Tyler:

When we I hope you guys look at the YouTube and see how fast she's spinning chasing her tail.

Danny:

And it's not like a quick. It's been but like this whole time Danny's trying to concentrate, tell his story. And the the damn dog is, hey, Riley, place. Place. Place.

Tyler:

Place. So we went out there and the an airport ops guy comes gets us. Right? And I have no idea what to expect. He's kinda like a he he has full reign of the Okay.

Tyler:

Of the airport. So they're like, yeah. We're gonna go take some pictures. We're gonna do some glamour shots. Glamour out onto the onto the airport, and we're on a taxiway.

Tyler:

And I'm like, holy shit. We're literally out in the middle of the airport, and planes are departing and arriving and taxiing, and there's all this airport movement. And we're in the middle of it. Just just the two of us, and then we stop at this taxiway. And my buddy's like, alright, man.

Tyler:

When I tell you, you're gonna jump out. We're gonna take pictures as the planes are departing and take and and and arriving, and they'll be right behind you. And I'm like, what? And he's like, yeah. When I tell you to jump out, jump out, and I'm gonna give you a a place to stand.

Tyler:

He's like, cool. K. Here we go. Here comes some planes. K.

Tyler:

Jump out. And he's like, k. See that four point square right there? Stand right there. And he's like, k.

Tyler:

Just get whatever pose you want. And he's standing there, and he's like, alright. Hang on. Hang on. Here it comes.

Tyler:

Here it comes. And I hear this and literally, the plane is right behind me. And it happens to be Delta has Delta has different kind of paint schemes or it has different sayings on their airplanes. This one said thank you.

Danny:

That's so wild.

Tyler:

Thank you across the airplane. And it's me standing on the tarmac, which is what that's called, and the plane lands and he's taking pictures. So the plane is doing, like, a 150, you know, whatever. Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler:

100 miles an hour down the down the runway. And he's click click click click click click taking pictures. Yeah. And he has a picture of me standing there, the plane behind me, and it says, thank you. That's so cool.

Tyler:

Cool is that? That's so cool. It was so cool. Then we went to another Delta plane, and there's, like, a Delta plane sitting there. And, you know, you get up to those planes, and you're like, this thing is ginormous.

Tyler:

Right? Yeah. So then I take pictures there and he takes a picture of the airplane, the tower behind it, and then there's a big American flag painted

Danny:

Oh,

Tyler:

cool. On one of the buildings. Cool. And it's me in the middle of this these three things. It's so fucking cool.

Tyler:

Yeah. And then we go over to the other the plane. We go back to the thank you plane. We take a lot more pictures. We go to the Air National Guard base because the Air National Guard base is, like, connected to our our runway.

Tyler:

And, you know, that's where I started was with the Air National Guard. And so we were out there for about an hour, and this guy's like, man, this is cool. He's like, I never the guy the airport guys was like, I've never done anything like this. He goes, this is cool. I hope I get to do this more.

Tyler:

He's like, this was amazing. Twenty nine years of government service of air traffic. All air traffic control. It's kinda rare, you know, that a lot of times people come into it later or you just have government, you don't I mean, that military thing is is is my generation. Yeah.

Tyler:

Yeah. That start of that. But, yeah, twenty nine years of air traffic and government experience of government work.

Danny:

That's crazy.

Tyler:

Twenty nine years. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you.

Danny:

Means Congratulations.

Tyler:

Yeah. That whole idea of, like, we talked about celebrating yourself and, like, being excited and happy for yourself, like, doesn't come naturally, you know, because sometimes you're like, don't pay too much attention to me. Yeah. They celebrated me for two or three days at work. Yesterday, I they had a they I walked in and they had a big banner A big banner.

Tyler:

With me.

Danny:

They sent me a picture of that.

Tyler:

They sent me picture of that.

Danny:

Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler:

The TRACON was decorated. They had some decoration in the in the break room. And then we went upstairs, and they had some decorations up there. All my friends were there, the guys that I've worked with. That's so cool.

Tyler:

I'm lucky, man. I've I worked with two guys two or three guys that I've known them my entire adult life. One of the guys there, he was my very first instructor in the military. And then when he then he came to Salt Lake, and so we've known each other for twenty nine years.

Danny:

That is so wild. I get that to me, like, some of my some of my really close relationships that I've had are my coworkers. But, like, after I've left the job, I've obviously, like, we've kind of lost touch. Yeah. And that's like I mean, that's the bittersweet of it.

Danny:

You maybe have something similar to that as you guys change locations. But this for you is those are relationships you've you've you've Yeah. Cultivated over twenty nine years. Like, is

Tyler:

I've told you this before. My best absolute best friend. We have known each other since we were in eighth grade. We are related. Hey.

Tyler:

Be careful there. It's got gum there, buddy. I don't want you to have that. No. I don't want you to have that.

Tyler:

Really? And so we've known each other since we were in eighth grade, 13 years old. We worked air traffic together. We've lived together. We our kids are a year apart or or or sorry, five days apart.

Tyler:

Our oldest kids are five days apart. He's my best friend. He's he's he's such a good per he's he's the reason why I am who I am today because he he he was a little bit better of a friend. He pushed us to go into the military. Yeah.

Tyler:

His dad was a father figure to me, you know. Cool. And we've we've we've worked our entire we've spent our entire lives together with each other.

Danny:

That's crazy.

Tyler:

And we worked the same days off. We've we've been on the same training teams where him and I train another controller and we're we're the trainers. Yeah. It's such a like, when I tell people that, like, it's not a normal thing. Right?

Tyler:

You don't usually work with your best friend Yeah. And, like, keep, like, an amazing relationship.

Danny:

So Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler:

I I talked and I told a little story, a couple stories about Jeff and I. And they they even it's like like their synonyms, they're always like, yeah, Jeff and Danny. That's like, oh, it's Jeff and Danny. Oh, Jeff and Danny. We used to have this back in the day when you would have an answering machine.

Tyler:

Yeah. Yeah. It was the Jeff and Danny, Jeff and Danny, Jeff and Danny this, Jeff and Danny that. And I told a couple stories and and, you know, I got I I definitely lost. I definitely cried because he's because he's so important to me.

Danny:

Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler:

And then he got to get he got out there and he was telling stories and he's crying. And everybody is like, of course. I mean, like, we're just it's known throughout the whole Salt Lake, you know, air traffic scene that him and I are, like, one in the same. Yeah. So it's cool.

Tyler:

It's a it's a it's a I've been lucky, Tyler. Like, super blessed. Yeah. I worked my ass off. I I I think that I'm I think that I'll leave lasting a a lasting legacy of, like, hard work, do my best.

Tyler:

A lot of trainees, a lot of people that I trained there. At times, like, I'll be in the TRACON, there's 12 other people and I trained all of those people. Wow. You know? And I think I've mentioned that before how cool that is to me.

Tyler:

And so it was it's been a good couple weeks. Everybody's like, so does it feel different? Like today, got took a phone bunch of phone calls. Does it feel different? Does it feel different?

Tyler:

It's like, no. Because Friday is my day off anyways.

Danny:

Oh, you're kind of winding down for the weekend.

Tyler:

I would be already off on Friday. Yeah. Yeah. Then I'd be off on Saturday. When it is gonna be wild is Sunday when I get done training

Danny:

Yeah.

Tyler:

And I have a beer. Because I've worked Yeah. Every Sunday for twenty nine years almost.

Danny:

That's so wild.

Tyler:

Every Sunday. Besides having like an RDO or like a vacation, but I'm always on vacation. Right? But for the most part, honestly, Tyler, I've worked every Sunday for twenty nine years.

Danny:

Did did they ever square up your the the your out of office thing?

Tyler:

Your No.

Danny:

No? No. That's just kind of it is what it is? No. That's wild.

Danny:

That's wild. But at this point, you're like, I don't care. It's oh, it's done. It's over. I'm over it.

Tyler:

Yeah. You know, I don't know how I feel about it, Tyler. The guy that you know, and I don't wanna I mean, there's a reason why we need to have a government overhaul.

Danny:

Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler:

And the guy that does our paychecks is a is is a clear customer of you should not have a job. Yeah. You should not have a job. I'm sorry, dude. Yeah.

Tyler:

You you should not have a job. He he well, there's so many things that have gotten messed up, and it's all coding. Right. So if it's coded correctly, we get paid correctly. Right?

Tyler:

He didn't code it correctly, we don't get paid correctly. So, yeah, it's not it's not met. It's not correct.

Danny:

Yeah.

Tyler:

I don't know. I'm gonna I'm gonna go I got some time on my hands now. Right?

Danny:

Yeah.

Tyler:

Yeah. So I can go through my pay stubs and look and double check. Does it matter? Does it does it change anything? You know, I don't know.

Tyler:

Yeah. I I feel like, you know, in twenty nine years, I never looked at my paycheck Yeah. Until this guy took over and then I had to look at every paycheck and every paycheck was wrong. Yeah. Every single paycheck.

Tyler:

Not just the government shutdown paychecks, Tyler. Every paycheck was wrong. Yeah. And times that by 32 people in my facility, times that by 32 people. One person is in charge of your paycheck.

Danny:

That's crazy.

Tyler:

And it's wild because it shouldn't be that easy. No. I mean, it should sorry. It shouldn't be that hard. Yeah.

Tyler:

But what it is is just attention to detail. Yeah. And he his he doesn't give a shit. He gets a paycheck. He doesn't care.

Tyler:

Yeah. He doesn't care. And if you go up there and you raise hell with him, he he tells he he files Completely. Hostile work environment on you. So you what can you do?

Tyler:

Yeah. Nothing. Right?

Danny:

Yeah. That's wild. That's so wild that it's still, like, not more automated. Right? Like, more You

Tyler:

know what Braxton told me? January, it's gonna happen again. Oh, it's gonna shut down. It's gonna shut down. On the books.

Tyler:

So, I mean yeah. I mean, I'm thankful I don't have to deal with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler:

I love when you do that. Look at Riley, she's she's stoked here. Yeah. I think I'm her best friend because she's she's super nice to me.

Danny:

She is super nice. She's not nice to all of our friends, but

Tyler:

She's not. Doesn't like everybody.

Danny:

She doesn't like everybody.

Tyler:

I think it's because, like, the first couple of days when you were getting her, I've seen her right away, you know, it's kinda one of those, like, things where I think dogs notice those things, you know.

Danny:

Yeah. Yeah. It is. She does get more comfortable Thank you. Around other people.

Tyler:

She says that when they lick you, that means that they love you. They love you. They it's you're one of their pack. So she they think that you're one of her pack, so that's why she's Oh. Licking you.

Tyler:

Yeah. As I I got this funny story. So I'm giving this, you know, this heartfelt speech at work yesterday.

Danny:

Yeah.

Tyler:

And I look over to my right. I look over to my right to look at my manager. He's in a wheelchair. And as I look over, the guy that's standing there has his fly full open. And not like fly down open, fly open, but pants.

Tyler:

Like Oh, no. Looking at his at what he's wearing.

Danny:

Oh, no.

Tyler:

And I'm thinking, I can't tell if that's underwear or not underwear. But if it wasn't underwear, you'd have a cool breeze. That definitely your and all I wanna do is be like, hey, buddy, your zipper's down the whole time. Do you tell people if their zipper's down?

Danny:

I I feel like, yes. Because I've I've been caught with my zipper down, like, I have this the brown suit, like this cowboy suit. It has a really hard zipper. It just pulls apart because it's not, you know, I'm I'm too chubby for it. But, yeah, I want people to tell me.

Danny:

So I try to be like, hey, as discreetly as possible.

Tyler:

What if something's on their teeth or something? Do you tell

Danny:

them? Yes.

Tyler:

Yeah. Me too. Yeah. Me too. I always like, hey, you got something in

Danny:

your mouth. You got something. Yeah. Like, you you

Tyler:

can What if it's, like, on their butt as and it's the opposite sex? And you're like

Danny:

Yeah. No. No. No. I think that's a no no.

Danny:

I think that's a no no.

Tyler:

I yeah. I'm a I'm a tell you everything Yeah. Kinda guy.

Danny:

I think you just have to.

Tyler:

Yeah.

Danny:

You have to.

Tyler:

What'd you do this week?

Danny:

This week has been just incredibly recharging. No. I've had my nephews at the house, so that was pretty good to, like, get them. There was I haven't seen them in what now? Almost a two almost two years?

Danny:

No. It's been a year.

Tyler:

A year.

Danny:

It's been a full solid year since I've seen them.

Tyler:

Oh, wow. Yeah. Because That's a long time.

Danny:

Yeah. Yeah. It'll be just because of my illness and so there was this this, like, cool opportunity to kind of just be with the next generation of of Clark and just, you know, hang out with them. My old his there's one of them's 13 and the other's nine.

Tyler:

Jamie's 13?

Danny:

No. No. No. Grayson's 13.

Tyler:

Grayson's 13? Yeah. Is he still playing soccer?

Danny:

No. He's he's gotten way into basketball. So I don't know. I don't I I I'm just grateful for the opportunity

Tyler:

to have

Danny:

to spend with him. She's just on one tonight. I think it's just because she's been like, it's just like I said, it's been so cold. I need to get the treadmill that the dog goes on. You know, so she can just run run some energy.

Tyler:

So what was your what what so when did they fly in?

Danny:

They flew in a week ago Thursday and they leave tomorrow or Sunday. Can't remember.

Tyler:

And then oh, so they're with Doug now?

Danny:

They're with my dad now. Cool. They're with my dad now.

Tyler:

How is Doug?

Danny:

He's super fantastic.

Tyler:

Good. Yeah. I got a phone call from my dad today, which is pretty rare. Like, it's pretty funny because when I tell people, yeah, my dad called and some some of you guys that know. Yeah.

Tyler:

It's like,

Danny:

oh. Oh, yeah. How'd

Tyler:

that go? How'd that go? You know, because I don't talk to my dad very often, but it it was cool because a parallel is pretty it's pretty similar. My dad retired when he was 44.

Danny:

Oh, cool. Okay.

Tyler:

And he was like he said, he goes, you know, the first little while you're gonna be like a little I don't know it's with my hands. I don't know if it's with my feet. Yeah. I have all this time on my hands. And he goes, then you settle in.

Tyler:

And then it's a decision at that point, are are you bored? Know, You you're getting a little too bored, you're getting a little too antsy, antsy, you're a little too rambunctious, you're getting a little too little too much trouble with Misty. Yeah. You know.

Danny:

You become a dog, Misty.

Tyler:

You better be careful. Yeah. Chase on my tail and shit. And so we had a good conversation. It was good to talk to him.

Tyler:

I hadn't talked to him. Yeah. I hadn't talked to him in probably I don't even know the last time I talked to him. I think I texted him on his birthday.

Danny:

Oh, okay.

Tyler:

But we didn't talk. I just texted him. Yeah. So it was kinda nice for him to call and Yeah. Congratulate him.

Tyler:

People reaching out and, you know, I I I don't know I don't have reference.

Danny:

Yeah.

Tyler:

I'm of my friend group, you know, I'm 47. Yeah. I'm the one only one retired.

Danny:

Yeah.

Tyler:

It's not like I can reference what's what I'm supposed to do. You know, I hope I'm a leader in this in in this environment. I know that I know it's the right call for me. Yeah. Like, I know deep down it's the right call for me.

Tyler:

I know that it's it's it I'm going to figure out something to make something work, you know? Yeah. But going down there wasn't working anymore for me.

Danny:

Yeah.

Tyler:

Yeah. It was so unfulfilling to me. And I think that's like one of those things in life as you start a new year, as you start new things, you know, as new year comes around or new jobs or is that fulfilling thing is fleeting. Right? And how do you keep your cups, your gas tanks full,

Danny:

your

Tyler:

rational, your emotional, your physical, your mental, those gas tanks, like, do you keep them full as a man when you're like, this is not fulfilling. It's not fulfilling me. And how do you get past those moments of, like, it's it would be so easy to quit. Yeah. Right?

Tyler:

It would be easy to quit everything. Yeah. But how do we how do we encourage and and and push our our friends and and loved ones, especially men, to be like, no, don't. Right. Don't don't just quit everything.

Tyler:

Right. But when it's time, don't not.

Danny:

Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler:

Yeah. Don't just keep going for a paycheck and be like, oh, this is gonna make me happy. It's never gonna make you happy. Yeah. And that's what I told myself is.

Danny:

Yeah.

Tyler:

Yeah. It's not gonna make me happy. I know. I'm not happy.

Danny:

I feel that I feel at a similar crossroads with where I wanna be in my own career. Yeah. Like, there's I can I I think of some distinct like, there's been some pivotal moments in my career where I've taken deliberately I can see as crosswords, roads in my path? Right? Like, had I taken this, things could have been differently.

Danny:

Had I taken this exit, things could have been different.

Tyler:

Sure.

Danny:

So, like, you've now committed to this this exit and you've been able to do it like with a safety net that like a lot of men probably don't have. I know I don't have much retirement set up and I'm I'm super nervous about it. I'm like, what am I gonna do? I see my dad excuse me. I see my own father who's been mostly self employed and I'm and I'm worried about that.

Danny:

And I've got an uncle who was self employed. I'm like, how do these how do these guys retire Yeah. Out of this business? Yeah. And

Tyler:

Yeah. How how? And and I don't know, like like I said, I don't have a blueprint. But, man, I I definitely have I have spent countless hours, countless nights awake trying to navigate every worst case scenario.

Danny:

Yeah.

Tyler:

Right? And I think that in itself is damaging.

Danny:

Oh, yes.

Tyler:

Because if you worst case scenario, everything I think we've talked about this, like, here's a nice personality to ruminate. Mhmm. Every worst case scenario, you almost, like, for make it happen. You force it to happen. And then when it happens that way, you're like, see?

Tyler:

Told you.

Danny:

See? Yep. Yep. Then you yeah. You confirmation bias.

Tyler:

Yep. Yeah. And why don't you come this way? Come here.

Danny:

I don't come here.

Tyler:

Let's come this way. Come here. Come over here.

Danny:

She's like it's like she can't see her way out or her way through.

Tyler:

Want me to move? No. Come over here.

Danny:

She's just such a teenager.

Tyler:

If you look over here, you see my hand.

Danny:

This is the episode where Riley gets fired.

Tyler:

Yeah. Riley's gonna get fired. As this She's gonna make her way through there.

Danny:

As this is the mascot.

Tyler:

As this when we when we go out as in in those moments of of uncomfortableness or Yeah. Unsureness Yeah. Grounding doesn't feel like it's there. Like, it doesn't feel like I'm grounded right now. It 100% does not feel like I'm grounded.

Tyler:

Yeah. Even though, like, I have all this, you know I mean, I have a good four zero one.

Danny:

Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler:

Yeah. I have money and savings. Sure. I have we have our bills set aside for February. We have our money for our bills set aside for February.

Tyler:

We paid for our Mexico trip.

Danny:

Like Yeah.

Tyler:

If I was if I had a paycheck, if I was going to work tomorrow, I'd be like, man, I'm fucking doing really good. Yeah. But because I don't know when my pension check comes in, I don't know when my when I can access some of these things, I don't know when the next money for day. I mean, we're talking we're talking twenty nine plus years I've had a steady paycheck. Yeah.

Tyler:

Besides the government shutdown, by the way. Bullshit. Yeah. So I'm not grounded. How what is the what is the way to stay grounded?

Tyler:

And it's it's it's faith.

Danny:

Yeah. I think there is that that that you you you've come to that bridge eventually. Right? When you spend enough time just kind of free falling, you kind of bounce off the different fears, right, until you finally say, you you have to regain whatever, you know, control is, whatever new normal is. Sure.

Danny:

Of course, Cozy's calling me. I thought I put everything on do not disturb.

Tyler:

Do you have them this week? No.

Danny:

They're they're with their mother.

Tyler:

Oh, good. Till the twenty fifth. What so and then imagine if a guy has those, like, consistently Yeah. Has these, I don't know when the next paycheck's coming in. Call me for another six months.

Tyler:

K. I don't know when the next paycheck's coming in. I could see, like, that's where where guys don't do well.

Danny:

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think what are your what are your what are your needs? What needs do you need to have met? And I think, you know, being able to provide for yourself, and I think this is where a lot of men kind of struggle, you know, early early on with with school, with college, with

Tyler:

Oh, yeah.

Danny:

All of this decision. Like, I've got a son getting ready to go to college. Right? Should he go to college? I think he should go to college for nothing else than the social aspect.

Danny:

Who does he in the network with there? Right? Who's he gonna bump shoulders with? I think I I've I'm a foundational believer that your network is your net worth. Sure.

Danny:

And and those connections will will will, you know, you'll build on them and that'll that's how you'll make money. That's how you'll invest in yourself if you if you stay humble. But just like you have to be able to provide an income for yourself. You need that as like a stable foundational identity, like just something to ground your your identity in. Mhmm.

Danny:

And now you're in this spot where you don't have that. Like, that is that is how Danny has identified himself.

Tyler:

For sure.

Danny:

You know? And now Danny gets to be just jujitsu Danny.

Tyler:

Well, that so that's what then then Right. Then I think so then I when I when I when I when I went through this this steps in my head, what I thought to myself was, then when you don't have, you know, this steady steady thing that you're doing, job income. Right? You better have very steady and solid vices. Yeah.

Tyler:

Oh, yeah. You better have some good things that keep you keep you on this organizationally tasked path. Right. Right? And it better be stuff that you can go, okay.

Tyler:

This will keep me humble. This won't, like, make my inner workings get so discombobulated and so out of whack. Because already I'm out of whack. Like, all of my stuff is out of whack already.

Danny:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler:

But yeah. Yeah. When I go to jujitsu, grounding. Yep. Yep.

Tyler:

When I come podcast, grounding.

Danny:

Grounding.

Tyler:

Because if not, man, I could potentially just be like, well, I'll sit there and just smoke weed for a

Danny:

It's couple containment.

Tyler:

Right?

Danny:

It's like containment of this pent up energy as we're watching this one just kind of explode in front of us. Right? You get to a point where you if you if you don't have an outlet, if you don't, you know, you you just you just explode. Yep. And it could be it could be that depression that's like, you know what I mean, that's that's hitting you.

Danny:

It could be that lack of a paycheck. It could be what is it what is it that's going to creep up on you? And and you talk about like just having having the container, it's it's about having the systems. Right? Like the it's like a life operating system.

Danny:

Danny's got his breathing, that doesn't change. Danny's got his his morning stretch, that doesn't change. Danny's got jujitsu, that doesn't change. Right? But where now do I get to, like, where do I get to breathe new life into?

Danny:

Sure. You know?

Tyler:

Yeah. Where's that time?

Danny:

What opportunities do I get to breathe new life into?

Tyler:

Yeah. Because there's eight hours of the day, nine, ten hours of the day Yeah. Six days of the week where I was doing something.

Danny:

Right.

Tyler:

What am I gonna do with that Yeah. Time? Is it gonna be just boring, bullshit, mundane, look at the Internet, scroll, smoke a little weed Right. Drink a couple beers. Well, if that's the case, I personally, for the first little while, I am going to Yeah.

Tyler:

Just sit there, smoke a little weed. Yeah. Take a couple gummies. Yeah. Like, have a good time.

Tyler:

Right? For a little while.

Danny:

You you the I think there'll be, like, the honeymoon phase. Right? Like, the vacation mode. Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler:

Like, the vacation you're gonna get

Danny:

sick of being on vacation.

Tyler:

For sure.

Danny:

And and that's the point when you'll say, okay. Now where do I like, okay. I've done this. Now where do I turn my where do I point my energy?

Tyler:

Gotta do something. Yeah. And I think, like, because I have this group of friends that, like, hold me accountable, it also helps me not go down a path of, like, destruction. Yeah. Because I think that that destruction is the is the root of evil where men could be really destructive.

Tyler:

Yeah. Right? This is I mean, this is a crazy one. Right? Let's say I go to war.

Danny:

Yeah.

Tyler:

I'm at, like, 100 miles an hour combat, like Yeah. Fighting for my life, come back to The States and then, like, wow. Nothing. Nothing. Yeah.

Tyler:

I think there's a lot of that in in our society with men.

Danny:

I think I don't I I mean, I don't think we really fully understand what, you know, what is it? Twenty five years spent in Iraq and Afghanistan. Yeah. However long it was. Like, I know I wasn't eligible.

Danny:

I didn't have the eyesight to join. Right. But yeah. I think that was damaging to a large generation of men.

Tyler:

For sure. I think, like, just having grounded grounded activities that are not Yeah. That are not destructive. Right. Yeah.

Tyler:

There's gonna be I mean, you you know, like I said, I'm I'm kinda teasing about the drugs and everything. Sure. I'm not a chemical person, but when I was younger, I enjoyed weed. Sure. And then I had to stop.

Danny:

Right.

Tyler:

Because if I ever got busted, it popped in the I mean, I'd lose my job. Yeah. And I always knew that, you know, and I always knew, like, I mean, it would be so easy to, like, do whatever I wanna do, but I don't wanna be destructive. And I don't have a destructive personality. Yeah.

Tyler:

Yeah. And so I think as men, we and we've talked about this before, I'm currently in a reinventive state. Yeah. Yes. I'm currently, like Yeah.

Tyler:

No more what everybody's seen Danny as in air traffic controller. Yeah. Yeah. Which, like, again, like, it goes back to I I truly have no idea what you do in your job. Yeah.

Tyler:

I just know that you work with computers and you you are always talk you're always working with a printing company Yeah. Trying to close some deals and some stuff. Right? Yeah. I have no idea what that looks like.

Tyler:

Yeah. I'm an air traffic controller.

Danny:

You have no idea what that looks like. I'm I'm just The planes land. Yeah. You gotta No idea.

Tyler:

Yeah. And I left my work with Misty never seen where I work. Not once. She's never been in there. She's never seen it.

Tyler:

And it wasn't that I didn't want her to see it. It's just that, like, it was a job to me, you know. Yeah. And I was passionate about it, but it wasn't define it didn't define me. And I think that a lot of times, the generation above us, our dads, they identified by their work.

Tyler:

They identified who they were who they were as men by what they did for a living. Right? If your dad was a police officer, he'd be like, oh, my dad was a police officer. And he he would he would identify himself as a police officer. Yeah.

Tyler:

Yeah. We don't identify ourselves by our job. No. We identify ourselves by who we are as men. Yeah.

Tyler:

What we do, where we take our pride. And I was prideful about my work, but it's just like, I didn't want I mean, I don't it didn't, like, fill my cup every day.

Danny:

Yeah. No. You know, I think thirty years is an honorable an honorable time to spend to spend at a at a craft. Right? You know what I mean?

Danny:

Like, you've you've you've done it. I think you've you've earned your opportunity to now like I said, breathe breathe the life. I know it's I know it feels like a free fall. It's gotta feel like a free fall as you as you re as you reinvent as you reinvent. But Yeah.

Danny:

Yeah. You have. You serve you've you've surrounded yourself with a group of men that they kind of help push you into whatever's next. Right? And I don't think the group that you're with will allow you to slip into that No.

Danny:

That destructive phase. Right? Like, it's it's one, it's not in your it's not in the it's not kind of in the nature of the community of jujitsu, right, for that kind of stuff. Like, you wouldn't you'd notice your performance slipping there before you you you got too far in to any any any type of real danger, would think. Right?

Danny:

Because you just knowing how you like to roll and what your goals are, that would that lifestyle would become in conflict. Right? So you you've put in some nice checks and balances as well. Yeah. So

Tyler:

Do you see have you ever seen a man, like, where you're like, oh, that guy is gonna fall hard if he wasn't doing what he was doing, wasn't working

Danny:

Every day, I look in the mirror. Every day, I look in the mirror.

Tyler:

Yeah.

Danny:

Yeah. A little bit of disappointment. Yeah. No.

Tyler:

What was your what was the first thing you wanted to do? Like, what was your first job that you thought you would do in high school? Do you remember?

Danny:

In high school, what did I think? I had no idea. I think that's one of the things where my parents were very passive. And I'm sorry mom and dad, I'm just gonna say it how it was. There was a lot of chaos and conflict in my house.

Danny:

Okay. And I didn't get the direction pointed that I needed, like, didn't get told. I I actually have been doing a lot of studying around this kind of transactional hope model. It get stems from my ultra, you know, high, you know, high need religion, growing up in this kind of high demand religion, where I just really I don't think it was intentionally, but like, I just was in it was just kind of indoctrinated with this idea that if I do x, I will get y. Sure.

Danny:

Right? If if I, you know, check these boxes then x y z will happen. And I think one of those was actually like my I remember my mom saying like, you're gonna go on your mission, you're gonna know what you wanna do for the rest of your life, you're gonna feel all this inspiration. And I got home and I was like

Tyler:

That didn't happen.

Danny:

I have no idea what I should do. Yeah. I thought I was gonna go in and become an EMT. Yeah. That's like, I came home, went to Arapahoe Community College and was thinking I was gonna go be an EMT.

Tyler:

In high school, you didn't have any kind of, like, idea, like, anything?

Danny:

No. I wanted to try to go play lacrosse in high school

Tyler:

Oh, okay.

Danny:

In college. But there was just so few opportunities that it was it was really hard until I found men's leagues and and some more club lacrosse type stuff.

Tyler:

I thought I was gonna be an architect.

Danny:

Oh, really?

Tyler:

I took a I took every so in tenth grade, I took drafting. Yeah. Like, CAD drafting, and then we did a a semester of drawing houses and drawing floor plans and things like that. And I was like, man, that is amazing. Yeah.

Tyler:

And so then the next two years, I took, like, high level CAD drawing. I I I did, like, computer, like, CAD drawing, computer housing. I I I mean, I built houses. There was times or sorry. I drew floor plans of houses and houses.

Tyler:

I I I Wow. Applied two of my houses, you could apply to get built. Oh, yeah. And I applied two of my houses to get built.

Danny:

Oh, really?

Tyler:

The guy that the teacher, mister Jensen, I think his name was.

Danny:

Yeah. That's cool.

Tyler:

He was like, yeah. This is great. Know? And I I yeah. I thought for sure that that's what I was gonna do.

Tyler:

That was so it was so fun, dude. You'd like Mhmm. You'd you'd draw these drawings, then you would put them through this, like, copier scanner almost. And it would bring it would give you those blueprint looking things, you know, and it would do it for you.

Danny:

Oh, wow.

Tyler:

Or you could do it on the computer and it would do it. It was cool. Was fun. Yeah. I I thought for sure that's what You thought it would And be then one time, somebody said, yeah, they don't make that much money.

Tyler:

Really? And I was like, well, I'm not doing that then. So then I was like, well, maybe I'll just go hang drywall for a little while. Yeah. And I hung drywall for a summer.

Tyler:

Yeah. And, yeah, I never I never drew Again. Again. Wow. I used to spend hours looking at blueprints or or what do they call them?

Tyler:

Floor prints? Floor prints? Right? And, like, try to mimic the the the writing that they did because they have beautiful handwriting.

Danny:

Right.

Tyler:

Yeah. And the arrow the arrows, like, they were so I love the way it looked. I'd spent hours, like, practicing my handwriting and practicing. Just

Danny:

A lot of times they use stencils now, don't they? Mhmm.

Tyler:

Yeah. Matt was probably a pencil, but We had stencils of trees and stuff, you know, that you would put on there and then you'd you'd have to, like whenever you submitted it for the in Utah, we have it's called showcase of homes. Mhmm. So that's what I apply. I I submitted my drawings for it to be built by a builder to the showcase Yeah.

Tyler:

Of But you had to, like, make it look really, really

Danny:

Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler:

And I mean, I got a lot of good feedback about it. The guys were like, man, this is really good, you know. Yeah. This is where some of the

Danny:

mistakes high school student.

Tyler:

Yeah. This is where some of the mistakes you're making. Yeah. A lot of times, like, you would put a bathroom in the wrong spot that wouldn't flow aesthetically. You know, like Yeah.

Tyler:

When you your kitchen should be attached to your garage back then in '98, that's what they were looking for. Your kitchen attached to your garage because in Utah, you don't wanna have to, like, walk through your house to get to your Grocery. Grocery drop your groceries off. Right? Your laundry room didn't wanna be near bedrooms because then it would keep you up at night.

Tyler:

Right? So you'd have to study all these, like, little nuances.

Danny:

Yeah. Yeah. The things buyers, what buyers want in their house. Right?

Tyler:

We'd study, like, other blueprints and what was what was working. And sometimes people would, like what's that called where they steal like, if you were gonna write a paper and you just

Danny:

Oh, plagiarize it?

Tyler:

Plagiarize. Yeah. People would plagiarize other floor plans and stuff.

Danny:

Oh, jeez.

Tyler:

You know, it was like it was kinda crazy, but, yeah, some high school some high school kids somewhere when, you know, would get their house built.

Danny:

That's crazy.

Tyler:

Ain't that wild?

Danny:

That is wild.

Tyler:

It was cool. It was fun. I I I thought for sure that's what was gonna do. I have a cousin that's he owns his own architecture company and Oh, cool. That's what he does.

Tyler:

He Yeah. He he builds houses off of his floor plans. You got

Danny:

plenty plenty more years to go build some houses. Yeah. Wanna go build some houses? No. No?

Tyler:

No. I love it, but no. I don't I don't have that in my

Danny:

Well, so as we as we reinvent, like, we've we've gone through this maybe it's less reinvention or or as it is like shedding layers. Right? Where men are like onions. For sure. So we're shedding you're shedding this layer.

Danny:

Like, what's what's next?

Tyler:

What do

Danny:

think the next year holds for Danny?

Tyler:

I think the next year is going to be I I have you know, we've had a lot of, like, talks and conversations with how to help other men. Yeah. I think I'm gonna work on some of those things. I think I'm gonna work with some of the at risk youth, which I would call them not not so much at risk youth, but the but the youth that don't have the same opportunities Yeah. That other kids would have because of their demographics or because of just the fact that they're just English, maybe their second language.

Tyler:

Yeah. Cool. And try to give them opportunities like in a mountain town and what would

Danny:

the Yeah.

Tyler:

Yeah. What would that look like? Right? What would that look like in a mountain town? Well, a lot of it is is outdoor activities that they would never do anyways Yeah.

Tyler:

Because it's not innate in their Yeah. In their lineage.

Danny:

Culturally.

Tyler:

Right. Something to do. If we can if we can work with some of the local companies, local businesses to give them the opportunities, man, maybe you get one kid out of there that's just some freaking gangster of an athlete Yeah. That's able to make it on the mountain bike team or Yeah. Go and paddleboard race Yeah.

Tyler:

With you know, get trans paddleboard race full of some at risk kids or some kids Yeah. English as a second language, and they go out there and gangster stomp a, you know, a race, a paddleboard race.

Danny:

They find something.

Tyler:

Or maybe like a 100 mile run.

Danny:

That's right.

Tyler:

Some trail running. Maybe I put some some English as a second language kids attached to Tyler on and and they're pushing Tyler to run on the trail series. Yeah. They would never have the opportunity in their life. Right?

Tyler:

Yeah. Yeah. But if we can give them the opportunity, maybe that's where your that's where your passion lies is is you're never gonna get there's always gonna be kids. There's always gonna be youth. There's always gonna be But if these kids are not attached to something, then you're missing out on a demographic of kids that you might be able to help.

Tyler:

Yeah. Yeah. Keep encouraging them to go to jujitsu and wrestling, you know, and and and making that part of their life. And maybe you just I mean, out of ten, fifteen kids, if you touch sorry. Touch Don't

Danny:

touch any of the kids. Don't touch of

Tyler:

touch any of the kids. But if you if you are can acquire their one or two kids' attention Yeah. To something that you and I enjoy, man, how how beneficial could their life be? Yeah. If they're able to, you know, encourage two or three other kids to be a part of it, you might get a community of kids that have never done this, but they're in this mountain town and they're able to, you know.

Danny:

I I saw this thing, I should send it to you. It's about third spaces. I guess it's kind of a woke state the system, like thought. Like, the the the this is the the concept of third spaces. Right?

Danny:

One and really it it makes sense and if you were maybe describing it to somebody who is challenged to be a good way of describing it, jujitsu is like a third space. Right? You've got your family as your primary space, you got your friends as your secondary space, maybe school, but it's the spaces that that that kind of equate our lives, you know, and kind of help round us out. Right? The things that make us hobby that that come out as hobbies.

Danny:

The the communities that we belong to, they become the third spaces in our lives and I just thought that concept was kind of interesting.

Tyler:

I think

Danny:

what you're talking about is, like, getting these kids exposed to where can they find, you know, where can they find what's the opportunity for themselves. Right? What's rather than rather than just saying kind of figure it out on your own, if you can get some some exposure to those things early, then they have they can see that they have options. And that's that's pretty cool. That's pretty noble and I think that's a great way to to spend to spend this next chapter.

Danny:

I think, you know, that's kind of why we I part of the reason I wanted to do the podcast is like how do we how do we tell our story and say what's next? And we know what what we know for a fact this next chapter is going to be discipline oriented. Right? The discipline to get back to jujitsu. It's gonna be finding your routine.

Danny:

Those those things that you need to do to kind of re reprioritize and re re re tackle. But did we cover you're doing the 100 you got the the Leadville 100.

Tyler:

Wild, dude.

Danny:

You got the lead you got the you pulled the draw.

Tyler:

I pulled the draw.

Danny:

You're gonna get a belt buckle.

Tyler:

I'm gonna get a belt buckle. Yeah, dude. What a wild day yesterday. I forgot about that. Yeah.

Tyler:

That's kind of one of those things where, like, I've always been passionate about outdoor things, but because I don't have enough time, you know, when I was working, We did the trail series that year. Yeah. We ran, you know, last year we ran one time last year. Was it last year that we ran? Oh, yeah.

Tyler:

Right after your right after

Danny:

your Yeah. One of the one of the

Tyler:

times we ran up to

Danny:

the parking

Tyler:

Right after you got out of the out of the hospital. We I have these things. Right? And Grant, one of our good friends, was telling me about this Leadville. And I'd I've known about Leadville for a long time.

Tyler:

I've got some friends that had have done it. And I was like, oh, yeah, man. I'll put in for it. Yeah. I'll do it.

Tyler:

I'll I'll put in for it. He's like, yeah. Let's put in for it. I was like, cool. On Leadville, you apply and the draw your your chances of get you're getting in your first year is pretty rare.

Tyler:

Right? And I knew that. I knew that. I knew, like, going into it, it was pretty rare. So when you apply for it, you're able to give a brief story of why you think you should get in that year this year.

Tyler:

Right? That will help your chances. Mhmm. And I was like, well, this is bullshit. Nobody's gonna read these things.

Tyler:

Right? Yeah. So I put in there. I was like, well, I'm gonna fill it out. And I put in there that I'm I'm gonna retire this year

Danny:

Yeah.

Tyler:

From air traffic control. And then I had just got off the government shutdown. And I was like, look, I'm don't have a lot of money right now because I don't have a paycheck because I've been part of the government shutdown. I've been doing air traffic control for twenty nine years. I'm working with kids.

Tyler:

I I put this big long Yeah. Massive application. Of on my application. I was like, if it gives me a little bit of a nudge

Danny:

to Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler:

Yeah. So yesterday was the drawing and I remember, like, know, you I'm sending Grant and I are, like, wanting to see if we get in. Right? And so he I I I opened my email, and it says, on the big thing, set your I know you got goosebumps because here it comes that you you got in. Your congratulations, you are in.

Tyler:

And I was like, well, I gotta read that again. What? And, yeah, I it says, congratulations. You've been selected as a lottery draw for Leadville. And I was like, wow.

Tyler:

I got in. It's a fuck that's wild. And then Grant, he did not get in, but he was able to secure a it's a kind of like the the a tap up for cancer. Oh, yeah. You sign up for you you you apply for a charity a charity spot, which means he he's going to raise money for the for for the Leadville charities.

Tyler:

And as long as he raises the money, he he gets a spot into the

Danny:

Oh, nice.

Tyler:

The thing, which is cool. So we'll be able to ride that thing together, which is kind of fun. Yeah. Yeah. It's wild.

Tyler:

Leadville is gonna be crazy.

Danny:

Yeah. I love it. Leadville is an amazing town.

Tyler:

My yeah. I hope that we get a group of guys group of people to go out there. I know that, like, my sister and my brother-in-law plan to go. There's some other people from Park City that I know that Grant knows got in. So there'll be a group of people that we that we know.

Tyler:

And so you should come. You should come.

Danny:

Hang on. Yeah. I wanna come. I wanna ride support and make sure your bike's tuned up and

Tyler:

Well, and, like, even that alone, like, you you you have a mountain bike, so you'll be able to get on the trails and, like, get out there with us. And Yeah. Again, we have a lot of time to now put into passion projects. Right?

Danny:

Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler:

And I can hold you accountable. You can hold me accountable, and we can, like, really grow. I believe that this this this is going to explode this year. Yeah. I had everybody at work tell me, hey.

Tyler:

I listen to your podcast. Hey. I listen to your podcast. Yeah. Hey.

Tyler:

That's cool. I listen to your podcast. I didn't know can Tyler had cancer. And and and how and everybody was like, hey. How are you guys, like how are you are you guys making money with this thing?

Tyler:

And it's like, no. Not yet. They're like, how are you not making money with this? Yeah. You know?

Tyler:

And it's like, well, one, because we don't know how. Yeah. Two, maybe it's just part of that whole build the concrete foundation. And Yeah. Now as we're blue belts in our little journey, we'll learn how to to do it.

Tyler:

And I think that's part of it is is I think we're gonna have a lot of time to do passion projects and and hold each other accountable and hold space for each other. And then you go, okay. Well, what does that look like? Yeah. And it looks like a reinvention of of just not of of who I am as a person, but just where my time goes in my life.

Danny:

Yeah. No. I'm I'm totally there with you. I'm I'm excited. This year is gonna be a lot of living.

Danny:

I feel like a lot of living is being called for.

Tyler:

Bunch of going driving in the bus and

Danny:

Yeah.

Tyler:

Yeah. No nobody holding me back. Yeah. They've been holding us back. Yeah.

Tyler:

We can, like, hang out to head out to wherever, you know.

Danny:

Yeah.

Tyler:

Montana. I know we my both my dad and my sister live in Montana. My sister just bought a house, so I think we're gonna go up there and

Danny:

see Hopefully how we're

Tyler:

Braxton has less than a year left, so I'm hoping that he'll be home soon. Yeah. And yeah. What about you? What are you what's what's a big thing that you want to accomplish?

Tyler:

Did you write your letter?

Danny:

I haven't written the letter yet. Mean,

Tyler:

we opened our list. We opened ours yesterday.

Danny:

Oh, you did? I the kids haven't opened theirs yet. Cozy, I think, is the only one that did one.

Tyler:

We opened ours yesterday. And on in big letters, it said, did you retire? Oh, yeah. I forgot it's so crazy to me that you'd you're the one that encouraged me to do these things with my family. And every year, I'm like, I forgot what I wrote.

Danny:

Yeah.

Tyler:

And then you read it and you're like, holy crap. Tristan's was, did you find a career that will be a career? Yeah. And did you find a girl that you have been looking for? And he both of those things, you know, he's a great he's got those things.

Tyler:

Yeah. Do you remember what so what did yours say?

Danny:

What did mine say? I think mine said something about Vessie.

Tyler:

Okay.

Danny:

I think I said

Tyler:

Are you gonna get cancer?

Danny:

Yeah. No. Yeah. It's yeah. Alright.

Tyler:

Are you gonna have to fight for your life like a motherfucker?

Danny:

Yeah. I I wanna say, did you get your I I did I did you get your three stripes or something like that? I wanted to get two or three stripes in jujitsu and, you know, there were some other things about, you know, wanting to build a house and get out of debt and so did get out of debt. Let's go. Yeah.

Danny:

So we got that going for us, which is amazing to think about considering I had cancer. But, yeah, we're out of debt now.

Tyler:

Good for you. So Well, and and honestly, like, when you and I talked about that whole thing, I was like, you you better do this.

Danny:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Tyler:

Yeah. This is this is a this is something where you like, yeah, this is not even a question. Yeah. This is not a question for if and when it's it's like, no, this is seriously what you need to do.

Danny:

It feels like the full on trifecta of loser town, but like No. You know, at the same time, I'm just like

Tyler:

You're not ever looking at like that. Yeah. Hell no. Yeah. It was it was it is so I was so happy when we talked about it because I was like, oh, yeah.

Tyler:

Duh. That's what I would do. Yeah. And I would never ever Yeah. Think of it any other way except for, no.

Tyler:

This is you have to. Yeah. You 100% have

Danny:

to. Yeah. So I think this year, I just have I'm I'm just filling this year with just like normal hope. Right? Like, I think

Tyler:

I'm durable. God, don't do this to me again.

Danny:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I'm playing the I'm playing the Powerball pretty regularly and so it gets over a billion. Know, you might as

Tyler:

well throw

Danny:

here. Yeah. Might as well throw it down, like, and and and pay attention to it. So That's that's really it. Just just living and then, of course, competing for Tap Out Cancer.

Tyler:

Yep. And You did you sign up for the Trail Series?

Danny:

I haven't signed up yet. I'm still debating whether or not I wanna do it. I wanna know if there's one I can do with Riley, like bring her with me.

Tyler:

There was dogs on that one. Right?

Danny:

Wasn't there? I don't know.

Tyler:

I don't remember.

Danny:

I don't know. Maybe I'll look into it. I wanna do one with with Riley.

Tyler:

Man, it would be cool if you found, like, a and if not, maybe that's what you do, is you do, like, a a veteran or or or somebody, like, survivor's race with your Yeah. With your what which is what's it considered what's Riley considered a what's the dog that stays with you?

Danny:

Service animal.

Tyler:

A service animal. Yeah. Maybe that's what you do. Maybe you build your own little race of Yeah. Service animals only.

Danny:

That's the biggest thing I think for her this year. She's gonna be going to school. So we're gonna be doing a lot of work with her to try to get her energy reined in here.

Tyler:

She hasn't stopped moving?

Danny:

No. Nope. Nope. She sat she took her power nap while I was at the sauna and now she's ready to do she's ready to go. She's ready to go.

Tyler:

Well, appreciate you letting this episode kinda be about me and Of course. What what I'm going through. I I I'm so grateful for your support. I tell people all the time, like, how lucky I am that I have guys like you in my life because you've never once said to me, Danny, are you sure you should be doing this?

Danny:

Yeah.

Tyler:

Like, it's so easy to be, like, terrified for me and be like, holy fuck, man. Do you have enough money? Do you have Yeah. Savings? Do you have house payment paid?

Tyler:

Yeah. Are you you could be saying all these things that I'm thinking Yeah. And reinforce all these negative things that I'm already thinking. And I could have changed my mind because I'd be like, man, all these guys are right. Goddamn.

Tyler:

I shouldn't be doing it. Not one of my friends and maybe it's because I pick really awesome friends.

Danny:

Yeah.

Tyler:

Not one single person said, are you sure you should be doing that? Everybody was like, fuck yeah, dude. Yeah. Because the commodity and the thing that we don't have is time. Yeah.

Tyler:

We do not have time. So you don't have to build you don't get to build more time. You get to have just the amount of time that you have, and who knows if it's gone tomorrow. I may be dead tomorrow. Yeah.

Tyler:

Right? Yeah. And that's what I told myself is, like, the commodity that I don't have is time. And so because I don't have time, I'm gonna make more time. Yeah.

Tyler:

I'm gonna I'm gonna find I'm good. And so I appreciate you. Appreciate the fact that you never even once questioned how crazy I am.

Danny:

I'm so stoked for you. I'm so stoked for you. I'm ready to sit out at the farmer's market and sell some Dude. Sell something

Tyler:

cool out of us. Yeah. I think so I have a buddy at work who him and his wife do the farmer market. So I've already talked to them about, like, how to ensure that so we have to, like, put in for our farmer's market stuff, and it starts, like, it starts June or July ish. You get the schedule, and then it's, like, every Sunday, you go.

Tyler:

So we'll be like a Park City Park Sealy every Sunday, and then, like, Friday and Saturday and Sunday, you go and you you you set up a different farm farmers markets. Yeah. And some weeks, you, like, just go to certain farm like Pioneer Park, you you know, you kinda hit those ones because that's where you're gonna get your most money. Right?

Danny:

Yeah.

Tyler:

Yeah. Snowbird. Then then you start your fall series because then they start doing the Oktoberfest stuff. And so you go to Snowbird and you go to some the ski little areas. Yeah.

Tyler:

And, yeah, I think, like, you know, it's gonna be fun. Yeah. It'll it'll be a good it'll be a good time, and I think, like, I'm ready. Yeah. And I'm excited.

Tyler:

I'm I'm Let's do it. Let's go.

Danny:

Alright. Let's wrap this up

Tyler:

and Yeah. Let's get Riley on hook.

Danny:

Get to living. Get to living. Right?

Tyler:

Yeah.

Danny:

Well, I appreciate you, brother.

Tyler:

Thank you.

Danny:

Excited for this next chapter. Cheers to everybody.

Tyler:

Cheers to everybody.

Danny:

We'll start seeing you more regularly.

Tyler:

K. Take care, guys. Bye. Bye.

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